If you think I 'm personally attacking you, I am really sorry if it came out that way. Its not my intention. But I always liked you for your contributions in fedora and massively respect your involvement. But the LWN "gnome-is-always right/everyone loves gnome-shell" posts of yours is misleading. I am using fedora f19 with XFCE.
>KDE 4 has settled down and users have accepted it.
If there was a choice people shall opt for it. Shoving down the throat with an not-so-interesting interface is what gnome users are facing right now.
You always argue that gnome UI is loved by everyone and try to project that the people who doesn't like it are a minority. Well honestly its not the case and you tend to use the freedom of speech to high-pitch your opinions on others on every other gnome-shell issue case. I always find some gnome-devs who doesn't disclose their position coming into support gnome-shell as well, at LWN. For all the love you have with gnome-shell try googling "I hate gnome-shell" without the quotes. There are like 2 dozens of threads in every linux forums about how they hate gnome-shell. I hardly find as much threads about how "I love gnome-shell" anywhere even with gnome 3.8.
There is very good chance that you might argue that forums are wrong place to look for statistics or info. I do understand that, but there are not many options out there.
>3.8 apparently has convinced some users that GNOME Shell isn't such an issue after all.
Do you have any base for your assertion?
If people don't talk about it, either they are done talking or already moved on to something else.
If gnome-shell is not such an issue why red hat is opting for a classic mode? (please save your self some time of implying how gnome-shell classic mode is also the gnome-shell, we already know that fact.)
> I suspect we will see more of that with time.
You are expecting us to get convinced and not bitch about gnome-shell?
>That is a pretty lame prediction. It essentially restates the basic premise of evolution.
I have lost lot of features in gnome apps in the last 2 years and I had to switch to XFCE. If that's evolution so be it.
There are alternatives in fedora as well with MATE/cinnamon.
>sbergman27 : Gnome-shell will adapt or die.
Its already adapting to red hat with classic mode. You can't market modern gnome-shell to workstation guys. Red hat knows that very well. They refer that "they want continuity in interface for a customer moving from gnome 2 to gnome 3".