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Mobile plans?Mobile plans?Posted Apr 6, 2013 23:14 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)In reply to: Mobile plans? by bronson Parent article: GNOME 3.8 released
"Exploratory playthings" has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Also # of commits is not indicative of popularity of the desktop environment itself and one cannot claim MATE is shockingly popular without any meaningful way to quantify it.
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Mobile plans? Posted Apr 8, 2013 16:30 UTC (Mon) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
You know very well there's no way to meaningfully quantify desktop numbers so I'm not quite sure why you're asking for them.
Since you seem to want me to be pedantic, this is what I meant by "shockingly popular": I thought MATE would stall out after a year or two but I'm shocked that its releases are still coming steadily and rapidly, meaningful commits are landing, the forums are lively, and they've made some real architectural fixes." Overall, qutie impressive. Does that make sense?
So, allow me to ask again... What more will it take for you to notice that MATE is "becoming more popular over time"?
I guess we must agree to disagree on whether Gnome 3 was a pretty experimental release. Was there much user testing that I'm not aware of? If so, I'd love to see the reports.
Mobile plans? Posted Apr 8, 2013 17:16 UTC (Mon) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
I ask for some way to quantify it (not just numbers) to make a point. You cannot claim something is "shockingly popular" based on the fact that you assumed it will die quietly. I see the desktop environments as popular when more distribution ship it by default.
Yes, we clearly disagree and if the only way for you to accept a desktop environment as non experimental is user studies, all modern desktop environments in Linux are experimental.
Mobile plans? Posted Apr 9, 2013 2:06 UTC (Tue) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
Did you miss this? "its releases are still coming steadily and rapidly, meaningful commits are landing, the forums are lively, and they've made some real architectural fixes. Overall, qutie impressive." I'm not quite sure why you only responded to my throwaway lead-in statement.
Guess I'll ask another time: what more would you like to see?
Obviously I'll accept a desktop environment if it continues to work the way it always has (hopefully with good, evolutionary changes). But throwing away existing muscle memory and going a completely new direction? Yes, that sounds pretty experimental, doesn't it?
Unless you did user testing / prereleases+feedback / etc first. Then it would be far less bold of an experiment. Was this the case?
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