Posted Mar 31, 2013 13:16 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950)
In reply to: Classic mode, cool! by jospoortvliet
Parent article: GNOME 3.8 released
Surely by this time you must be aware of:
1. Design team
2. Mac OS X
3. Resorting yet again to summarizing things as "forcing" and "epic failure" is not really respectful
4. Extension that changes this
For someone who is supposed to be understand communities this is really weird behaviour.
Posted Mar 31, 2013 15:06 UTC (Sun) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164)
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I'm asking because I understand communities and don't get how this decision could be made in a bottom-up, open community that cares for its end users.
None of your points explain that process.
Classic mode, cool!
Posted Mar 31, 2013 18:32 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950)
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Pot calling the kettle black any much?
Calling things epic fail just does not help to create a discussion. Now you make all kinds of statements. E.g. KDE is the end all of usability. Look, I know you are a KDE fan. But there is something like Mac OS X. Your epic fail does not mean anything.
However, just making things emotional by suggesting that we would not care, or that things are an "epic fail". And the "understand communities", really nice behaviour that you're displaying towards the GNOME community, changing a "meh" into "epic fail".
Community manager means behaving like this?
Classic mode, cool!
Posted Apr 3, 2013 0:13 UTC (Wed) by daniel (subscriber, #3181)
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3. Resorting yet again to summarizing things as "forcing" and "epic failure" is not really respectful
True, however you should keep in mind the difficulty of maintaining a really respectful demeanor after somebody has just done something really stupid and shows no contrition in spite of widely negative feedback. Just backing out the change and introducing the new idea as an extension would have been a way for Gnome developers to show respect for their users, but what was done instead seems to show more defiance than respect.