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Classic mode, cool!Classic mode, cool!Posted Mar 29, 2013 22:27 UTC (Fri) by drag (subscriber, #31333)In reply to: Classic mode, cool! by luya Parent article: GNOME 3.8 released
Ditto,
With alt-tab and alt-` I can accurately and quickly choose between any number of application and application windows open, of which I typically have dozens.
Talk of 'oh it's optimized for small displays', or 'it is made for touch screens', or 'it is bad for multitasking' are all statements that do not hold up to actual experience on Gnome-shell.
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Classic mode, cool! Posted Mar 30, 2013 11:03 UTC (Sat) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]
Switching between apps instead of windows is a nice additional feature that a small minority of users might find useful - KWin has introduced this feature a long time ago, too, but I never used it.
What I don't understand is what rational argument there is for forcing people out of their entirely reasonable habit and pushing the extra cognitive load on them to bother about a detail ('this window happens to be part of that same application')?
I really wonder how a decision like this gets made - it is quite the epic failure. And then not deciding to revert this when it becomes clear that, for no reason, you switched shortcuts and destroyed the value of years of muscle memory - that makes it even more epic...
Classic mode, cool! Posted Mar 31, 2013 13:16 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
Surely by this time you must be aware of:
1. Design team 2. Mac OS X 3. Resorting yet again to summarizing things as "forcing" and "epic failure" is not really respectful 4. Extension that changes this
For someone who is supposed to be understand communities this is really weird behaviour.
Classic mode, cool! Posted Mar 31, 2013 15:06 UTC (Sun) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]
I'm asking because I understand communities and don't get how this decision could be made in a bottom-up, open community that cares for its end users.
None of your points explain that process.
Classic mode, cool! Posted Mar 31, 2013 18:32 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
Pot calling the kettle black any much?
Calling things epic fail just does not help to create a discussion. Now you make all kinds of statements. E.g. KDE is the end all of usability. Look, I know you are a KDE fan. But there is something like Mac OS X. Your epic fail does not mean anything.
However, just making things emotional by suggesting that we would not care, or that things are an "epic fail". And the "understand communities", really nice behaviour that you're displaying towards the GNOME community, changing a "meh" into "epic fail".
Community manager means behaving like this?
Classic mode, cool! Posted Apr 3, 2013 0:13 UTC (Wed) by daniel (subscriber, #3181) [Link] 3. Resorting yet again to summarizing things as "forcing" and "epic failure" is not really respectfulTrue, however you should keep in mind the difficulty of maintaining a really respectful demeanor after somebody has just done something really stupid and shows no contrition in spite of widely negative feedback. Just backing out the change and introducing the new idea as an extension would have been a way for Gnome developers to show respect for their users, but what was done instead seems to show more defiance than respect.
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