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Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Posted Mar 25, 2013 0:04 UTC (Mon) by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
In reply to: Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost by dlang
Parent article: Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

> Spend some time talking with male nurses about that goes on in their environments and you will hear horror stories every bit as ugly.

While nurse stories would make IT persons blush like they never did before I don't think this is gender-related since doctors tell the same stories or worse. Gallows humour they say.


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Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Posted Mar 26, 2013 0:24 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Quite. And, to be honest, I think cardiac nurses or neurosurgeons have more justification for gallows humour than do computer people (those working in non-safety-critical environments, anyway). When you've reached into someone's open chest on short notice in the middle of the working day you likely *need* to blow off steam afterwards. Dealing with idiotic IT support requests or random passing bugs is just not stressful to the same degree, at all. There isn't as much riding on it. (And I say this as someone who finds most computing jobs too stressful -- but I know this is a reflection on me, and not an indication that computing jobs are in some way super-stressful. They're not.)

Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Posted Mar 26, 2013 0:28 UTC (Tue) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

I wasn't talking about cardiac nurses or ER nurses or any subset that is under especially high stress.

I'm talking about your run-of-the-mill nursing staff (the equivalent of the run-of-the-mill IT staff, or auto mechanics, construction worker, etc)

Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Posted Mar 26, 2013 0:46 UTC (Tue) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> (the equivalent of the run-of-the-mill IT staff, or auto mechanics, construction worker, etc)

Even though run-of-the-mill nurses don't often deal with open chests they still have to deal with things quite heavier than "equivalent" jobs. It does not need to be covered in blood.

Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Posted Mar 26, 2013 4:02 UTC (Tue) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

If I'm reading the research correctly there isn't any evidence that one source of stress is different than another, stress is stress and it doesn't matter if it is because of a life and death issue or a trivial one, it has the same effects and feels the same.

I'm sorry that you've internalized your difficulty with stress and don't think your feelings are legitimate because IT work isn't "important" enough, it's not a bad reflection on you to have stress. It reminds me of something I once read about ESPNs web operations, they remind themselves that he stakes are ultimately low, "We are not doctors, if we screw up no one dies, worst case is someone doesn't get their sports scores for a little while."

Blum: Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost

Posted Mar 26, 2013 8:19 UTC (Tue) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> If I'm reading the research correctly...

If that's not literally begging for a:

[citation required]

... then I don't know what is!

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