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Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0Posted Mar 15, 2013 22:01 UTC (Fri) by ledow (guest, #11753)Parent article: Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0
Steam achievements for the Web?
I don't really get the point.
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Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 16, 2013 0:03 UTC (Sat) by Company (guest, #57006) [Link]
Until you need them in your résumé.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 16, 2013 9:49 UTC (Sat) by ledow (guest, #11753) [Link]
Okay, call me back when there's worldwide demand for these badges rather than vendor-specific courses that they can then charge you for using their own "custom" solution that they can verify much more closely rather than relying on an (unpaid?) third-party to get it right every time.
And even then, there's nothing stopping any company in the world setting up their own one (a lot of them already have, so you can just log-in and see your completed courses etc).
Additionally, you would then need to prove identity on the web and/or hand off personal details to this project in order for a potential employer to verify that it's YOU that are entitled to those "badges".
This is a problem that doesn't need solving (vendors already have their methods), and produces data protection / identity problems to solve, and requires everyone to jump on board (without a single competing system arising) to solve.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 17, 2013 8:27 UTC (Sun) by blujay (guest, #39961) [Link]
I agree completely. We don't need to be moving toward finer-grained, canonical taxonomy and authentication of human beings and their qualities. What about those of us who don't want our lives enumerated in detail with confirmation that it's really me? I don't like the idea of prospective employers requiring such information.
What this really encourages is cataloguing of human lives, and it enables self-serving comparison and ego-boosting--which is not good for even Free Software projects.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 18, 2013 16:16 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
> I don't like the idea of prospective employers requiring such information.
I do.
Same thing with employees that want Facebook passwords and also do credit checks. Same thing with personality and psychological tests and other crap like that.
I love that stuff. I _WANT_ to have the the ability for employers to demand that stuff.
Want to know why?
Because getting a new job and moving to a new location is such a stressful life changing event. I want to make sure that my employer is not a huge asshole before I commit to them. Requiring these sort of things make it very easy to spot who the assholes are and thus it makes it easy to avoid them.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 19, 2013 17:00 UTC (Tue) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]
What about employers who ask for a credit check on your first week.
I've had that. It was awkward.
I said "no", and I started looking.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 20, 2013 14:07 UTC (Wed) by ledow (guest, #11753) [Link]
Amen. I was halfway through your post and about to shout until I got to the end and thought "Exactly!". A self-fulfilling prophecy - if you want something from me that I would never give my employer, then you won't ever BE my employer.
Credit checks? Possibly, maybe, might be, in high-end financial jobs but otherwise I would refuse just on principle. And even then, I think there's probably a good case for a discrimination lawsuit even there. What's next? Writing to my great aunt and asking if I always said please and thank you as a little boy?
Unbelievable what people will subject themselves to just because a man in a white coat / suit asks them to do it.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 20, 2013 18:43 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
credit checks and background checks can be appropriate for some jobs (how vulnerable are you likely to be to outside pressure for jobs with high security requirements), but this should be part of the job description and completed before your first day on the job, not presented as a requirement after you are hired.
Such checks should also be done periodically after the person is hired, otherwise the value is greatly diminished.
Mozilla releases Open Badges 1.0 Posted Mar 20, 2013 17:43 UTC (Wed) by njwhite (subscriber, #51848) [Link]
Hmm, while your argument is attractive, I think you're wrong.
It's a good argument, that works nicely for those of us fortunate to be in a strong career position; for whom turning down a job if the employer turns out to be a dick is possible. For those starting out, or otherwise considered easily replacable (fairly or not), the freedom to turn down a job may not be so easy to exercise.
It's for those people that legislation about such things is worth having. It doesn't stop their employers mistreating them, but it does at least somewhat circumscribe their behaviour.
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