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Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experienceDuffy: Improving the Fedora boot experiencePosted Mar 13, 2013 16:56 UTC (Wed) by farnz (guest, #17727)In reply to: Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience by Yenya Parent article: Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience
As a Fedora user forced to dual-boot Windows, I boot Fedora on a daily basis. I can't simply not boot Windows 8 - it's not me who uses it, it's another member of my family who has no choice due to third parties mandating certain pieces of Windows software. The ideal fix would be for me to buy a second laptop, just for Fedora. In the meantime, Fedora boot time matters to me - I see it whenever I want to use the laptop for something serious.
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Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 13, 2013 22:47 UTC (Wed) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
The systemd developers demonstrated a 2 second boot for kernel+userspace (GDM). This required removing some stuff like LVM, etc. If the firmware of your laptop is quick, a 4 second boot to GDM is realistic (firmware on new laptops can take max 2 seconds if they want to show that shiny Windows logo).
Though if you really have 2 operating systems on there, I think showing a boot menu is good (IIRC that is also the plan).
Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 13, 2013 22:52 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
Essentially, if you are using a SSD and no LVM, it is likely that your system itself will boot faster than your login time from GDM.
Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 14, 2013 9:59 UTC (Thu) by Aissen (subscriber, #59976) [Link]
In this case auto-login with automatic screen locking is very useful. Something I use with kdm/KDE, but can't seem to be done with gdm/Gnome.
Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 14, 2013 10:30 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
File a bug please. Sounds interesting to support.
Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 14, 2013 10:40 UTC (Thu) by Aissen (subscriber, #59976) [Link]
I went ahead and created an account on Gnome's bugzilla, only to find this was not new:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469571
Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 14, 2013 10:49 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
GDM almost fully handles the lock screen now, IIRC. So I hope it is now way easier to implement. Before we relied on gnome-screensaver, etc. That is all messy. GDM in 3.8 still has a fallback thing because we removed it too late.
I'll try and convince people that this makes sense. Which I guess means convincing Lennart to convince others :P
Duffy: Improving the Fedora boot experience Posted Mar 14, 2013 17:19 UTC (Thu) by farnz (guest, #17727) [Link] I've actually got a simpler setup that works for me, without a boot menu. From Windows, holding shift while choosing restart gets me a menu from which I can choose Fedora. It takes about 10 seconds from there (BTRFS on dm-crypt on a slow HDD - so some of the time is eaten up by waiting for the passphrase) to get to the greeter. From Linux, I can either just reboot and end up in Windows, or run a script that just invokes efibootmgr --bootnext 0002 && reboot to reboot back into Fedora. Windows 8 boots in about 5 seconds, and it takes me around 5 seconds to enter my passphrase for the disk, so I don't think Fedora is doing badly; however, I wouldn't object to ever faster Fedora boots. My ideal would be to get back to the boot time of 8-bit home computers - reboot in under a second, but I appreciate that that's outside Fedora's control due to the 2 second BIOS delay.
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