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Why not Wayland

Posted Mar 6, 2013 16:39 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341)
In reply to: Why not Wayland by andreasb
Parent article: Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H)

Oh, and that then means Poettering *can* be written equivalently and correctly as Pöttering? :)


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Posted Mar 6, 2013 17:28 UTC (Wed) by jwakely (subscriber, #60262) [Link]

So he *is* a heavy metal band? This is all very confusing.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 18:05 UTC (Wed) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

You're supposed to use »oe« if the person spells their name with »ö« but you can't use the umlaut (air travel tickets come to mind).

If a person spells their name with »oe« to begin with (as in »Poettering«), substituting »ö« would be considered a mis-spelling. The general assumption is that if they spell their name like that, they prefer it like that, and it is a matter of common courtesy (rather than linguistics) to go along.

So, no equivalence.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 18:14 UTC (Wed) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

In this case yes, but I don't think it's universally true.

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 19:30 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

> > Oh, and that then means Poettering *can* be written equivalently and correctly as Pöttering?
> In this case yes
No. Please read the thread. He says himself that Pöttering is not a correct spelling:
https://lwn.net/Articles/541159/
mezcalero is Poettering's nickname on lwn, in case you weren't aware.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 20:51 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

woosh... ;) (my comment was written in full awareness of that comment)

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 20:46 UTC (Wed) by andreasb (subscriber, #80258) [Link]

As mentioned, 'ö' is expandable to 'oe' when you can't write umlauts for some reason. The inverse isn't necessarily true (can't come up with examples though) and especially not for names.

Names are spelled the way they have "always" been spelled and do not have to match current orthography. For example, someone called Schmidt, Schmid, Schmitt or any other variation can not simply be "corrected" to Schmied (smith) even though that's the current spelling.

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Posted Mar 8, 2013 1:34 UTC (Fri) by mezcalero (subscriber, #45103) [Link]

No, my name is Poettering, not Pöttering. You can check my passport. There's no umlaut in my name.

Lennart

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