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Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H)Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H)Posted Mar 5, 2013 6:37 UTC (Tue) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)In reply to: Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H) by rsidd Parent article: Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H)
> Very likely the reasons for not using Wayland were bogus and the real reasons are something like "We want to put out a project by 2014 and are not confident Wayland will be ready".
The Weston project is very open to contributions, so Canonical could just pay developers to add whatever functionality is needed to Weston. And if that doesn't work out for whatever reason, they can write their own Wayland compositor and add whatever protocol extensions they deem necessary. There's no reason to believe that developing their own display server will save them any time, to the contrary.
The real problem with Canonical is that they ultimately have the mindset of a proprietary software company. They require copyright assignments for no good reason, they develop proprietary software (the Ubuntu One Server), they develop things behind closed walls, they suffer from serious NIH and they generally seem to focus on competition instead of cooperation. I personally just encourage people to switch away from Ubuntu due to this attitude. The Linux ecosystem would be better off without Canonical.
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Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H) Posted Mar 6, 2013 5:25 UTC (Wed) by Serge (guest, #84957) [Link]
> so Canonical could just pay developers to add whatever functionality is needed to Weston. And if that doesn't work out for whatever reason, they can write their own Wayland compositor and add whatever protocol extensions they deem necessary.
Or they could use DirectFB and patch ilixi compositor to their needs. On the other hand Wayland people could also write X11 protocol extension instead of reinventing X11 into core Wayland + bunch of compositor extensions.
It's kind of fun to read how people were excited about new Wayland announcements and how those people now worry about "one more windowing system" and "what should Steam@Valve be now developed for".
If people really cared about Linux being successful and attractive for developers they would stick to common stable solutions, i.e. Xorg, and try making it better.
Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H) Posted Mar 6, 2013 9:25 UTC (Wed) by tnoo (subscriber, #20427) [Link]
The Wayland develpers are mostly the Xorg developers. So they are not re-inventing the wheel, but are working hard to develop a round, smoothly running wheel instead of the established roundish thing with bumps, spikes, and struts and in all directions that is Xorg.
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