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Moving the goalpostsMoving the goalpostsPosted Mar 5, 2013 3:46 UTC (Tue) by drag (subscriber, #31333)In reply to: Moving the goalposts by rahvin Parent article: Canonical reveals plans to launch Mir display server (The H)
Probably the same reason they are using upstart. They like what they are doing more then what others are doing.
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Moving the goalposts Posted Mar 5, 2013 5:03 UTC (Tue) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]
This seems different than with bazaar or upstart, in those cases they saw the need and were early to the party but failure to build a consensus around their design caused them to be left by the wayside as the industry moved on to technically better solutions (git and systemd). In this case they are late to the part, the early one is google with surface finger and the design that will probably win out on quality is Wayland so that doesnt leave much room for Mir. Maybe it will be like Phonon and just wrap the real API, as long as it doesn't get in the way
Moving the goalposts Posted Mar 6, 2013 5:18 UTC (Wed) by Serge (guest, #84957) [Link]
> In this case they are late to the part, the early one is google with surface finger and the design that will probably win out on quality is Wayland so that doesnt leave much room for Mir.
Not late. Currently there's nothing but Xorg in Linux. Yes, there're Wayland builds in some distributions, there's even RebeccaBlackOS livecd with Wayland on it. But most people have never seen it, they don't know how Wayland works or even looks. Even those who've seen it usually say that it's in early development stage, and lacks many features.
So actually there's Xorg and tales about legendary Wayland. :) Now we've just got one more tale about legendary Mir.
Moving the goalposts Posted Mar 5, 2013 5:53 UTC (Tue) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]
The stated reason for sticking with upstart is that it took them five releases to make it work somehow and they expect the same kind of breakage from systemd.
> http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/upstart-beyond-Ubuntu-12-04...
It obviously never occurred to them that making upstart work was hard because it, you know, is upstart.
Moving the goalposts Posted Mar 7, 2013 20:27 UTC (Thu) by JanC_ (guest, #34940) [Link]
From my point of view, it took so long because of lack of manpower. That problem didn't get solved until recently (the last 6 months or so?).
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