I seriously doubt that SHIELD will be even the least bit useful.
Almost all patents are "valid" in the legal sense, and there isn't much present work to change the criteria.
I hate the "abuse" of the patent system, but let's be honest, trolls are not "abusing" the system in the legal sense. They have valid USPTO patents that generally stand up during review.
The solution is to change the USPTO patent process. Leaving this to the courts is nonsense. Most patent disputes are settled out of court, and SHIELD wouldn't fundamentally change that. A defendant primarily considers two things when deciding to litigate or settle: 1) likelihood of winning (either no infringement on a valid patent or no infringement because the patent is invalid), or 2) likelihood of decreasing liability by settling vs. litigating (i.e. will it be cheaper for a settlement or litigation + judgment).
I don't see how SHIELD changes either situation in any meaningful way.
Defendants in patent suits generally lose or settle. It's that simple. If there isn't a drastic change to the likelihood of a not guilty verdicts, I don't see more suits going to trial, and consequently, any chance for SHIELD to make a difference.
In my opinion, this is a typical useless lawyer solution. The idea is to increase the number of patent suits that go to trial and increase the incentive (i.e. money) for lawyers to pursue such trials. We'd make lawyers even richer, but the actual defendant won't be much better off.
EFF: Open Letter to House Judiciary - Investigate Patent Trolls
Posted Feb 28, 2013 21:00 UTC (Thu) by redden0t8 (guest, #72783)
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It changes the situation because as it is now, if you go to court against a patent troll, you're out money regardless of whether you win or lose.
At least with this, you're not out a penny if you win. It's more incentive to fight it. Actually, the harder you fight it, the more legal bills you rack up and the more the could have to pay
It's also a disincentive for patent trolls - right now even if they lose, they're only out their own legal costs.
EFF: Open Letter to House Judiciary - Investigate Patent Trolls
Posted Feb 28, 2013 22:33 UTC (Thu) by fandingo (subscriber, #67019)
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I have not seen any definition of a patent troll in this proposed legislation. Apparently, troll is synonymous with loser in patent litigation. The unintended consequences will likely be severe.
Let's say that I have some awesome product that implements one of my patents. I am making real money off the product, but it's a small company, so profits are relatively small -- let's suppose $100,000 per year. Some giant company -- let's suppose Microsoft -- makes a product that infringes my patent and destroys my business. I have a bona fide complaint against Microsoft, and it needs to be resolved through the court system or a private settlement.
Yet, I have a significant disincentive to sue Microsoft. Not only could I be out my own legal expenses, which I can rationally limit since I control the legal team, but I could be on the hook for Microsoft's *reasonable* (emphasis) legal expenses. That can still run into the millions of dollars. Suddenly, it's unfeasible to bring a suit against a large company.
In this instance, I'm not really acting as a troll, but I am just as disincentivized as trolly-mctroll-corp.
That's my entire problem with this approach. The pendellum swings both ways. Any ligitant is disincentivized from filing a suit.
I can certainly understand that some would think that this is a good thing, and I agree to some extent: Fewer lawsuits (and patents) would be a good thing. But for every trollish suit (or perhaps for every 10) there will be legitimate suits that are not pursued. (Or, alternatively, the entire affair is toothless, and neither trolls nor legitimate patent holders are dissuaded from filing.)
I don't want to fix the litigation aspect of patent law, except perhaps, to make patent review during litigation more adversarial. I want
1) Significantly tighter restrictions on patent eligibility.
2) Substantially smaller patent term perhaps as low as three years.
3) An outright adversarial filing and review process by USPTO that exists entirely outside the court system. (With the stated goal that reviews should not be wrapped in court procedure to minimize cost.)
I believe that reform expends political capital. Once something is reformed, people generally believe that item is fixed and move on to something else. Look at major legislative issues. We don't typically make drastic alterations repeatedly over a short period. There's almost a sense that we can only reform some systems once a decade or generation.
I think that SHIELD has unintended consequences that will not make the system substantially better, and that "we" will exhaust all of the political capital for patent reform, which will delay more substantive reform later.
EFF: Open Letter to House Judiciary - Investigate Patent Trolls
Posted Feb 28, 2013 22:42 UTC (Thu) by fandingo (subscriber, #67019)
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To extend on my point, I have no problem if the tenants of SHIELD are combined with real patent reform (see parent comment for my idea of real reform).
I just worry that people that don't follow patents closely, and particularly, the software patent field, will think that the patent system is fixed if only SHIELD were passed.
We'd lose another few years trying to convince legislators and voters that the underlying problem still exists.
EFF: Open Letter to House Judiciary - Investigate Patent Trolls
Posted Feb 28, 2013 23:17 UTC (Thu) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
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> I have a bona fide complaint against Microsoft, and it needs to be resolved through the court system or a private settlement.
> Yet, I have a significant disincentive to sue Microsoft.
If you have a bona-fide complaint than you are expecting to win and have your expenses paid, you would only expect to lose and pay expenses if your claim was tenuous or outright bogus. It seems that if this is considered a bad thing then it seems like it is being is assumed that the courts are incapable of ruling on patent issues in a reasonable manner.
SHIELD has been useful
Posted Feb 28, 2013 21:43 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)
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I seriously doubt that SHIELD will be even the least bit useful.
Well, they have been quite effective against HYDRA, haven't they? (Don't look at me this way, I cannot have been the only one to scratch my chin at the acronym.)