> while people here tried to understand what effect this exploit can have
first, they did not (provide evidence that they did. no, running the exploit is not evidence of that.) second, as i explained so many times, you don't care about exploits, you care about exploitable bugs, regardless of an exploit that you may very well never get your hands on (but your attackers may/will). please stop spreading this bullshit attitude, this is exactly one of the biggest problems with people who are in charge of security somewhere but are incompetent to the point that without a weaponized exploit or worse, getting completely owned they would never consider fixing the problems.
> you've only posted snide remarks here and expressly refused to help
> because audience here does not worship you enough.
that help was already in the article, including the linked ones too: there is an exploitable kernel bug, no ifs and buts about it. go fix it yourself if you can, wait for your distro otherwise. no other piece of information is needed if you only care about defense! and forgive me if i refuse to play on the attacker side and help people write weaponized exploits. pretty please? ;)
> I mean: you've spent a lot of time and efforts to make sure people on
> LWN will perceive you as "this asshole who never says anything concrete
> and just plays some great guru who has right to ridicule everyone else
> without a substantial reason"
do you have evidence that we don't provide 'anything concrete'? spoonfeeding weaponized exploit info doesn't count of course (albeit spender has been quilty of even that but then i don't expect you know, it's so much easier to throw out random shit without evidence, aint't it ;). and yes, we do ridicule idiots such as yourself, but you see biased samples don't statistics make (may i refer you to the same wikipedia article that i suggested nix to read as well? ;).
> and now you are surprised that people treat you as such asshole?
and that statistics is based on what evidence exactly? oh wait, the usual 'i made it up because that is what fits my distorted reality'. second, what does it matter (seemingly to you, but not us) what anyone thinks of us? does that change anything? not us apparently. then why do you care? do *you* change when others think of you as an asshole? yeah, i didn't think so either ;). third time i'm reminded of Einstein. the guy knew something.
Posted Feb 27, 2013 16:18 UTC (Wed) by corbet (editor, #1)
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I get the sense that the few people still following this thread have a fairly good idea of what the participants think of each other at this point. So maybe we could stop here? Seriously, personal attacks don't help the conversation, let's try to do rather less of that, OK?