LWN.net: where people are allowed to make up complete lies and the facts don't matter -- just be civil!
Can you please point me to this "business" you speak of? The PaX Team's website is http://pax.grsecurity.net. Can you please show me the URL to the "buy" button? All i see is freely-available documentation and source code! The PaX Team does not even accept donations!
I thought not freely sharing information about kernel vulnerabilities was the business of the upstream developers ;)
As for being permanently ahead of the game, it's not an impression but an obvious fact, whether you like that fact or not.
Posted Feb 26, 2013 16:24 UTC (Tue) by gowen (guest, #23914)
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Become a Sponsor
Sponsors receive personal support, audits of RBAC policies and kernel configurations, the ability to request features tailored to your organization, and presence on the website. Sponsorship begins at 100 USD/mo. To become a sponsor of grsecurity, email spender@grsecurity.net.
It's not a support contract -- it's just that they give you money, and you give them support.
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 16:30 UTC (Tue) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
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I was under the impression that PaXTeam is not (part of) grsecurity, even if they are being provided web hosting by grsecurity.
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 16:43 UTC (Tue) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616)
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sorry to burst your bubble, but i'm not spender, i'm not doing grsecurity, i do PaX. spender has very kindly provided hosting since i had to move last time off some free hosting. we've been working together on our projects for over a decade but the business side (for the sponsorship otherwise companies have a hard time to donate) is his, not mine. so what's next? a new excuse? an apology? nah, one can't expect much from random LWN ranters, can we? ;)
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 17:24 UTC (Tue) by gowen (guest, #23914)
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An apology? ok. I'm very sorry for not being convinced that you're not the same person.
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 17:40 UTC (Tue) by arjan (subscriber, #36785)
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as having someone who has interacted with both Spender and PaxTeam, I can say that they are certainly not the same person.
I've in the past clashed with PaxTeam on issues at times, but I do respect his technical ability greatly; he/she does not deserve this thrashing in this forum, even if the communication style is a bit brisk.
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 18:26 UTC (Tue) by k8to (subscriber, #15413)
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The one statement does not imply the other. Perhaps there are other reasons though.
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 22:03 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
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One of the unfortunate consequences of posting in a style guaranteed to offend people and piss them off is that one will offend people and piss them off. Wishing that this didn't happen will not change it: one cannot reprogram the social instinct of everyone with whom one interacts. Eventually, PaXTeam may learn this (or start to care that it happens and dooms him to perpetual Cassandrahood), though I don't hold out much hope.
A nasty local kernel vulnerability
Posted Feb 26, 2013 22:53 UTC (Tue) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616)
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