Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel [LWN.net]

Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel

Posted Feb 19, 2013 19:25 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel by mmarq
Parent article: Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel

Samsung, ARM, TI, Sony, AMD, Imagination, LG, STMicro, ST Ericsson etc etc etc... are academic guys without real hardware ?

Nope. These are companies which cough up few millions here and there to make sure they'll be in the loop if this idea will actually reach some usable stage. Does not mean anything beyond that at this point.

Remember the last "next big revolution" (called EPIC if you forgot)? It also had an impressive names: Intel, HP, IBM (which wanted to use the opportunity to unify UNIX), etc.

They had really awesome slides! And really cool story. I'd say EPIC story. In the end we've got an epic fail, nothing more.

I'm not saying they'll fail but the fact remains: number of supporters and sizes of such supporters don't automatically equal success.

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Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel

Posted Feb 19, 2013 23:41 UTC (Tue) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

You are all mix up... lol...

HSA is NOT about a CPU u-arch... at best its about a macro-arch concept, one which is highly flexible... but most of all is about a "PROGRAMMING PARADIGM"...

So according to the names involved, because *they use it*... HSA fits nicely with ARM, x86, MIPS and PowerPC(thought Sony changed, i think its used on some other stuff by some) on the CPU side... TI, ARM, MIPS etc DSPs... all the analogue stuff of ST-Ericsson and MIPS and ARM etc... and its open to many more!...

So catching a few millions here and there, all those guys make many times the size of Intel as example (5x perhaps !?)... Only Samsung itself is bigger than Intel... no matter how much many dogmatic sectarian POV wants to twisted it, it is truth...

Also no matter how hard it takes to many... can be debatable, but highly dependent on how and what you count... from Smarth/Superphones to desktop, by *unit accounts*, the CPU u-arch leader of the client side of computing is ARM not x86... an nothing will prevent with ARMv8 64bit, the spill in force into the traditional Mobile (laptop) side of computing and even some desktop( in this earlier steps)... not even if Intel goes thermonuclear (its too late now).

I think Google saw the light... "renderscript" smells HSA allover some how, and staying more ARM centered and not MIPS or x86... Android will be the only real fight to Microsoft in the client side... though Apple will remain very big, as big as Intel, i think they are "too closed" to ever be the clear dominant force on the client side.