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Gräßlin: Client Side Window Decorations and Wayland

Gräßlin: Client Side Window Decorations and Wayland

Posted Feb 15, 2013 15:23 UTC (Fri) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
In reply to: Gräßlin: Client Side Window Decorations and Wayland by mmarq
Parent article: Gräßlin: Client Side Window Decorations and Wayland

Spending more than five seconds thinking about the end user usually leads me to the following conclusions:

  • Some of them (I'm tempted to say most, but...) want "exactly what I have, only better" - but can't be induced to give you any information about what might constitute "betterness".
  • Some of them know what they want, and it's something reasonable and plausible that can be achieved on a sensible timescale.
  • Some of them know what they want, and it's either self-contradictory or in violation of the laws of physics as we know them.
  • Some of them want things that cannot be reconciled with things that other people want.
  • Some of them have no idea what they want.
  • Some of them know what they want, but will tell you they want something completely different that only resembles what they want in the way that Bizarro resembles Superman.
  • Some of them think they know what they want, but will hate it when you give it to them.

(I wouldn't be surprised to find that I have myself fallen into each of the above categories at least once.)

If we look at the platforms that have achieved mass adoption, we find that they've all said "no" to at least some physically-possible ideas. This suggests a guiding principle that being able to say "no" is important.


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Gräßlin: Client Side Window Decorations and Wayland

Posted Feb 15, 2013 16:34 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

7 billions and no face is exactly the same... damn sure the Large majority doesn't want what you want...

But yes there are common denominators, but those tend to be very small and restricted...

Users want some more (or more) consistent look & fell... "I THINK SHOULD BE ALLOWED OR BETTER SAID FACILITATED", and as i POSTED ABOVE, a minimal set of issues;

hey! KDE, hey! Gnome, hey! Mozilla, hey! Libreoffice... (etc) its not for notoriety is not to discuss better code, its not for my project gain... "ITS FOR THEM"... THINK NOT PERFECTION... BUT FOR SURE THERE ARE SOME BASIC THINGS WE COULD AGREE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THEM AND US

That is a "Free Leader"... else, "free" is an empty word in the mouth of a fundamentalist sectarian kind of priesthood.

Gräßlin: Client Side Window Decorations and Wayland

Posted Feb 15, 2013 18:48 UTC (Fri) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

As a person who had to take user-centered design classes and works with it, I can tell you that: most users know what they want, but they can't communicate what it is. You have a plethora of communication techniques just to extract this information from a group of users.

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