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What about binder?What about binder?Posted Feb 10, 2013 6:04 UTC (Sun) by alison (✭ supporter ✭, #63752)In reply to: Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel by ovitters Parent article: Kroah-Hartman: AF_BUS, D-Bus, and the Linux kernel
In 5 years, all userspace applications that don't get merged into the kernel will have been swallowed by systemd instead.
But seriously, why doesn't anyone mention binder in this context? It's already in staging, last I checked. Binder is a kernel interface for what is widely viewed as a simpler, lighter weight replacement for D-Bus. Binder's native communication is pub-sub, with userspace programs registering for events for which they define handlers. Assuredly pub-sub and multicast have some similarities, although I don't know if binder (which is intended for a fairly narrow set of use cases) will scale well, since scalability along with speed appear to be the main goals of AF_DBUS.
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What about binder? Posted Feb 10, 2013 13:08 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
if you read the article you'll note that Greg already replied about binder.
What about binder? Posted Feb 10, 2013 21:32 UTC (Sun) by alison (✭ supporter ✭, #63752) [Link]
ovitters, where does Greg reply about binder? On Google+ perhaps? I see no comment on his blog. The H Online does discuss Android intents but not binder specifically. It should be possible to support an intents interface with D-Bus, so it's not clear (and perhaps not yet decided) what solution is contemplated by those who discussed IPC at the Gnome Developer Experience event.
What about binder? Posted Feb 10, 2013 21:57 UTC (Sun) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/4cAYc...
search for binder. Took a couple of seconds to google it.
What about binder? Posted Feb 10, 2013 22:36 UTC (Sun) by alison (✭ supporter ✭, #63752) [Link]
Thanks, rahulsundaram. I wanted to make sure I read the same comments as everyone else and wasn't sure whether G+ was what ovitters referred to.
What about binder? Posted Feb 14, 2013 7:22 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]
Just hope that this doesn't *bind* many novices out of Linux permanently (concretely in desktop)
One of the main motives for kernel Dbus for now is "Linux Apps"(it will have many more for sure)... but i definitely don't like the model at all...too much sandboxing you end up sandboxing the user out lol...
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/GNOME-developers-p...
To me it would be much better to implement "capabilities" in the style of EROS http://www.eros-os.org/eros.html
The masses are ignorant of this tech wonders... they aren't as savvy or seasoned developers as you gentlemen.
What about binder? Posted Feb 11, 2013 8:34 UTC (Mon) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
Sorry, should've been clearer. I meant the comments at Google+.
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