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LibreOffice 4.0 releasedLibreOffice 4.0 releasedPosted Feb 9, 2013 17:54 UTC (Sat) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)In reply to: LibreOffice 4.0 released by ovitters Parent article: LibreOffice 4.0 released
The point is that a presentation program is supposed to make it easy to create good presentations, even for people who don't want to invest a huge amount of effort. That's the reason why many people like LaTeX so much: you can obtain a reasonable result without worrying a lot about layout. LibreOffice doesn't seem to do well in that regard.
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LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 9, 2013 18:02 UTC (Sat) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
I find various things strange in your argument.
For one, I disagree with the purpose of a presentation program. Sometimes you just want speed. Secondly, if you see a presentation which does is not nice it does not imply that the presentation program was at fault. Lastly, I don't find LaTeX easy at all, though you didn't specifically suggested that as a good presentation program (right?).
Include a chart/graph/table from some other program in your presentation program and it is going to look out of place (different fonts style/size, it being a picture instead of vectors, etc). A program can also do so much.
LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 9, 2013 20:24 UTC (Sat) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]
> For one, I disagree with the purpose of a presentation program. Sometimes you just want speed.
So a presentation program is a tool to quickly create something that sucks? I'm not interested in such a tool.
> Lastly, I don't find LaTeX easy at all, though you didn't specifically suggested that as a good presentation program (right?).
> Include a chart/graph/table from some other program in your presentation program and it is going to look out of place (different fonts style/size, it being a picture instead of vectors, etc).
LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 11, 2013 19:20 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
> If your presentation program forces you to use raster graphics, then I suggest you use another one. LaTeX interoperates with a variety of vector formats such as SVG or PDF. Also some programs (such as Gnuplot or QtiPlot) allow you to export the graph in PGF/TikZ format, making integration with LaTeX trivial.
I had a paper to do for a class and I used circuitmacros[1] to convert from m4[2] to eps and embedded a our circuit diagram right into the PDF as a vector drawing. I'd like to see any presentation editor do that…
[1]There's some tedious work to get the wires laid out right, but once the shape is set, components can be moved around without an issue.
LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 11, 2013 20:46 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
We did something similar (with graphviz files) using VB macros back in 2001 (I think).
LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 14, 2013 23:28 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
People just don't spend time on presentations and things will go wrong.
If you copy/paste while creating presentation you'll end up with differences. Vector graphics is nice, but try getting that working nicely while copy/pasting from various programs.
E.g. creating a control chart in some program (forgot the name, need to check @ work). You can paste but by default it just pastes an image. Even as vector it'll look off: different fonts, colours, etc.
I don't really see a presentation program fixing arbitrary copy/paste things.
LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 11, 2013 23:19 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Seems like a faithful implementation of MS Office to me, then. :)
LibreOffice 4.0 released Posted Feb 19, 2013 13:04 UTC (Tue) by ssam (subscriber, #46587) [Link]
if you want to use latex for presentation, but dont want to type so much, have a look at wiki2beamer.
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