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LWN.net Weekly Edition for May 23, 2013
An "enum" for Python 3
An unexpected perf feature
LWN.net Weekly Edition for May 16, 2013
A look at the PyPy 2.0 release
LibreOffice 4.0 released
Posted Feb 8, 2013 20:52 UTC (Fri) by louie (subscriber, #3285)
Posted Feb 8, 2013 23:18 UTC (Fri) by pboddie (subscriber, #50784)
I wasn't at any of the presentations where these slides were shown, so I can't say anything about the means of presenting them itself, but as a downloadable resource I found them informative. Certainly a lot more informative than slide decks consisting of 150 single-word slides ("performance", "fast", "cool", "shiny"...) where you really had to be there, and where even nice photographs would be more communicative to those who weren't or who downloaded the slides later to refresh their memory.
Posted Feb 9, 2013 3:16 UTC (Sat) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)
Posted Feb 9, 2013 16:21 UTC (Sat) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950)
I often see various presentations. At most they are created by a small. What I noticed is that unless it is meant to be announced, there seems to be a difference in presentations. Some presentations look really smooth, but substance wise they are lacking (you cannot tell due the amount of time spend on the presentation). The presentation by Michael Meeks is more like what I value more: focussed on details, but the resulting presentation is not as smooth (things like different font sizes, too many colours, too much text, more difficult to follow structure, etc).
It does not really matter if there are lots of guidelines, templates, etc. Often the nicest looking presentations are lacking content wise.
It would be nicer though to have the combination of good content as well as really nice presentation. But if it is just one person, give me the inconsistent presentation any day over something smooth but lacking (if the presentation is smooth, make sure to be critical and ask loads of questions :P).
Posted Feb 9, 2013 17:54 UTC (Sat) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)
Posted Feb 9, 2013 18:02 UTC (Sat) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950)
For one, I disagree with the purpose of a presentation program. Sometimes you just want speed. Secondly, if you see a presentation which does is not nice it does not imply that the presentation program was at fault. Lastly, I don't find LaTeX easy at all, though you didn't specifically suggested that as a good presentation program (right?).
Include a chart/graph/table from some other program in your presentation program and it is going to look out of place (different fonts style/size, it being a picture instead of vectors, etc). A program can also do so much.
Posted Feb 9, 2013 20:24 UTC (Sat) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)
> Lastly, I don't find LaTeX easy at all, though you didn't specifically suggested that as a good presentation program (right?).
Well, as a matter of fact, on the few occasions where I had to give a talk, I did use LaTeX with the beamer class. I tried to do things with OpenOffice.org, but I found it hard to use and wasn't satisfied with the results.
> Include a chart/graph/table from some other program in your presentation program and it is going to look out of place (different fonts style/size, it being a picture instead of vectors, etc).
If your presentation program forces you to use raster graphics, then I suggest you use another one. LaTeX interoperates with a variety of vector formats such as SVG or PDF. Also some programs (such as Gnuplot or QtiPlot) allow you to export the graph in PGF/TikZ format, making integration with LaTeX trivial.
In short, there are ways to make presentations that don't suck.
Posted Feb 11, 2013 19:20 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
I had a paper to do for a class and I used circuitmacros to convert from m4 to eps and embedded a our circuit diagram right into the PDF as a vector drawing. I'd like to see any presentation editor do that…
There's some tedious work to get the wires laid out right, but once the shape is set, components can be moved around without an issue.
Not the best of languages, but it was an interesting exercise.
Posted Feb 11, 2013 20:46 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
Posted Feb 14, 2013 23:28 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950)
If you copy/paste while creating presentation you'll end up with differences. Vector graphics is nice, but try getting that working nicely while copy/pasting from various programs.
E.g. creating a control chart in some program (forgot the name, need to check @ work). You can paste but by default it just pastes an image. Even as vector it'll look off: different fonts, colours, etc.
I don't really see a presentation program fixing arbitrary copy/paste things.
Posted Feb 11, 2013 23:19 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Posted Feb 19, 2013 13:04 UTC (Tue) by ssam (subscriber, #46587)
Posted Feb 10, 2013 16:50 UTC (Sun) by Del- (guest, #72641)
Posted Feb 10, 2013 23:43 UTC (Sun) by el_presidente (subscriber, #87621)
The lack of a guide on making good presentations?
Posted Feb 10, 2013 23:59 UTC (Sun) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
> The lack of a guide on making good presentations?
I think it's even more fundamental than that.
The lack of agreement on what makes a good presentation.
Posted Feb 11, 2013 0:38 UTC (Mon) by neilbrown (subscriber, #359)
Surely we can agree on that!
- occasional humour
- a mixture of what I already know and what I don't yet know
- good eye contact with the audience
- always repeat audience questions (gives you extra time to think of an answer)
If you are depending on a tool to make a good presentation, then you are missing the point - and should probably stick to cat photos :-)
And if people come away from your presentation thinking that the slides were really good, then they probably were distracted by them and missed your point.
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