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25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 17:18 UTC (Sat) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164)
In reply to: 25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women by blujay
Parent article: 25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

You can make this a huge philosophical debate about freedom, fairness and human rights, but that isn't very useful. The comic posted makes a point which you can't ignore by trowing up more questions. We all know this is a complicated thing and different communities make different choices (notably, I know in KDE there is quite strong opposition to a program like the one GNOME is running. Reasons are very much related to some of the arguments you bring forward).

In the Real World, that is, outside of philosophical arguments, the reason for doing what GNOME has done is two-fold:
- there are extra barriers for women to get involved in Free Software (and having more women involved in itself lowers this barrier);
- having a larger % of women in a Free Software project increases fun and productivity

Both of these aren't exclusive to Free Software and quite well documented so if you disagree, I suggest you look up some research instead of asking me. I'm surely going to be too lazy to do your work for you.


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25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 3, 2013 9:35 UTC (Sun) by efraim (subscriber, #65977) [Link]

>> The comic posted makes a point which you can't ignore by trowing up more questions.

The comic posted misses a point entirely. In real world such a justice is not usually achieved by putting more boxes and making the low higher. It is usually done by cutting down those who are higher. (and this is mostly how affirmative action-style initiatives deal with it) The result is much more graphical and I won't post it here. But the point is I hate analogies when they miss all the important details. I do not think that this detail is one which can be easily ignored.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 5, 2013 0:37 UTC (Tue) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

That's a very dark view of the world that I don't think is borne out by either intentions or facts. You can only believe we are diminished by women's outreach if you think that any job performed by a woman is taken away from a man.

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