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Seigo: Plasma.next()?Seigo: Plasma.next()?Posted Jan 30, 2013 9:51 UTC (Wed) by aseigo (guest, #18394)In reply to: Seigo: Plasma.next()? by Tara_Li Parent article: Seigo: Plasma.next()?
> presents them as a flat view of folders for each directory
> that contains an image
So, I ended my post by saying "don't judge Active by the limitations of Android/iOS" ... and what do you do? ;)
and yes, i hate these applications, too. they are ridiculously unuseful. we aren't recreating those applications, however, because we think they suck. we want to do better, and i think we are achieving that.
we're not trying to make another Android clone (a failure i see in most other F/OSS mobile products, btw: androidish but with some differences in the home screen gesture navigation .. it's not enough0, we're trying to make a damn good touch interface.
> If people have too damned much trouble understanding folders in folders
people aren't stupid. folders are stupid. they enforce a single sorting mechanism based on a single tagging that must follow a parent->child relationship. single entry hierarchies break down rapidly as content grows in richness or volume.
we're not trying to fix the UI for people's stupidity, we're improving the UI to match the realities of people's content complexity.
i routinely handle huge hierarchies of files (source code trees, e.g.) and find the metadata approach on tablets far quicker and more powerful in that context.
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Seigo: Plasma.next()? Posted Jan 30, 2013 14:05 UTC (Wed) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]
> people aren't stupid. folders are stupid. they enforce a single sorting mechanism based on a single tagging that must follow a parent->child relationshi
I'm on board with finding a better way to organize things and I believe that KDE as a project won't take away things just because it's cool, but what is the answer for cases when a user really does want a rigid hierarchy? I have not used KDE4 for a few releases, or the Active stuff at all, but it seems to me that there isn't a known solution to the problem that will satisfy the people who want hierarchies and the people who would find life easier without rigid parent->child restrictions (especially since sometimes these are the same people).
Are you hoping that a purely non-hierarchical system won't be as unpleasant as people seem to fear or do you know of a solution that is known to satisfy both cases?
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