Poettering: The Biggest Myths [LWN.net]

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 27, 2013 5:29 UTC (Sun) by imitev (subscriber, #60045)
In reply to: Poettering: The Biggest Myths by mgb
Parent article: Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Xorg is being slowly stripped of its features, it's not happening at once: KMS in kernel (talking of a monolith ?), wayland with compat layer, ...

I remember the pain of deploying init scripts to multiple distros so I can only welcome Poettering's efforts to try to improve things. Yes, some ~~shiny~~smart features happen to come together.
You say you're in FLOSS for the long haul so you know well that nobody is pushing you to use systemd. If your favorite distro chooses to use systemd there might be a good reason, but you could always switch to another one. You may also join force to influence systemd's development, or even write your own init replacement, if it's really good enough people will adopt it for sure. But complaining about systemd becoming a monolith is not true nor fair. Did you really read the article ?

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Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 30, 2013 2:55 UTC (Wed) by daniels (subscriber, #16193) [Link]

Xorg is being slowly stripped of its features, it's not happening at once: KMS in kernel (talking of a monolith ?), wayland with compat layer, ...

... what? All the old userspace drivers work just as well in Xorg as they ever used to: full of massive security holes, unable to do proper cross-process zerocopy buffer sharing, not playing well with other Xorg sessions, prone to hard-locking your machine when Xorg crashes, et al. It's just that the newer driver versions now reside in the kernel. Use the old ones if you want to. XWayland is also a new additional feature, rather than feature removal.

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 30, 2013 21:25 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

The old userspace drivers are merely a legacy thing nowadays. In fact, the radeon driver recently dropped userspace mode setting support iirc. So X.org is in fact losing features, because they're being moved to other parts of the graphics stack.