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RegressionRegressionPosted Jan 26, 2013 16:37 UTC (Sat) by sorokin (subscriber, #88478)In reply to: Regression by mjg59 Parent article: Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark
If someone complains about a feature missing it's a regression.
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Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 17:09 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
So KDE 4 is a regression when compared to KDE 3?
Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 18:10 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
To some, yes. That's why Trinity exists (and the semi-separate OpenSUSE KDE3 fork).
Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 18:33 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
Regression's a subjective term?
Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 19:19 UTC (Sat) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
No, a regression is a regression. Whether anybody cares or not, that's subjective.
And, whenever you remove a feature from a large project, no matter how meaningless or crappy, you will find somebody who cares.
Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 20:54 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
Right. So "Regression" here isn't terribly meaningful - almost every update will change or remove some functionality in a way that annoys somebody. By this sense, changing from GNOME 3 to Cinnamon would be a regression. It's a term that doesn't add anything to the conversation, and people should stop using it.
Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 21:18 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] By this sense, changing from GNOME 3 to Cinnamon would be a regression. No. If things is mostly the same but has different name people expect that some features will not be available. When something is billed as "pure upgrade" but it removes features - people become quite vocal. Is it fair? No. But that's life. Deal with it.
Regression Posted Jan 26, 2013 21:29 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
Someone defines the term, I explicitly say that I'm using that definition of the term, and then you tell me that I'm wrong? How about disagreeing with the definition, instead?
Regression Posted Jan 27, 2013 16:16 UTC (Sun) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
We can agree that cinnamon has fewer regressions, right? And that they are spending a lot of time reducing potential regressions that their users might experience?
Sounds like a meaningful conversation to me. Where's the confusion?
Regression Posted Jan 28, 2013 22:51 UTC (Mon) by sorokin (subscriber, #88478) [Link]
> almost every update will change or remove some functionality in a way that annoys somebody
In GNOME -- yes. In other reasonable projects that is simple not true. I would say that for most projects that is not true.
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