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Bionic and uClibcBionic and uClibcPosted Dec 28, 2012 4:44 UTC (Fri) by bjartur (guest, #67801)Parent article: GNU C library 2.17 released
Do any statistics support the assertion that glibc is used on most Linux systems? Or how many Lunix servers are there for each Android handheld or dongle in use?
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Bionic and uClibc Posted Dec 28, 2012 12:42 UTC (Fri) by armijn (subscriber, #3653) [Link]
OK, I'm taking the bait ;-)
In my experience you will find glibc (or uClibc) on many Android systems, especially tablets. This is because many of the tools in the stock Android system (like toolbox) are simply too limited, so they put back the usual Linux tools, which need glibc or uClibc.
And, to step away from Android: don't forget the millions of VMs that are running Linux.
Bionic and uClibc Posted Dec 28, 2012 13:36 UTC (Fri) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] Who is "they" - the device manufacturers / vendors, or the end users? If the latter, I suspect you know a largely atypical selection of Android device users.
Bionic and uClibc Posted Dec 28, 2012 15:04 UTC (Fri) by armijn (subscriber, #3653) [Link]
Vendors, obviously.
Bionic and uClibc Posted Dec 28, 2012 23:59 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] In my experience you will find glibc (or uClibc) on many Android systems, especially tablets. Define “many”, please. 1% of all Android devices will create a huge population: few millions, but that's still 1% and thus mostly irrelevant when we discuss “most systems with the Linux kernel”. And, to step away from Android: don't forget the millions of VMs that are running Linux. And so what? Even if we'll be extremely generous and somehow find out hundred millions of these mythical VMs these are still a drop in the bucket. New Android systems are created at rare of 1,5 million—per day. And if we are starting to talk about exotic things like Android tablets with glibc we should not forget about all these routers with uClibc (not glibc in sight because it's simply too heavy for these). Sorry, but it's not even a contest: GLibC is not driving “most systems with the Linux kernel”. It actually justifies “GNU/Linux” term which RMS tried to push for years and makes it useful: since most Linux systems out there are not GNU/Linux systems it's now quite useful to distinguish Linux systems and GNU/Linux. Not sure if RMS will like such justification for it or not…
Bionic and uClibc Posted Dec 29, 2012 1:52 UTC (Sat) by dankamongmen (subscriber, #35141) [Link]
the fact that this pointless discussion existed is evidence that the semantics of the phrase "linux systems" are unclear. one of you means "all instances of linux kernels", while one of you (and most readers of this site, i suspect) means "linux instances running machines traditionally conceived of as computers". thank you, drive through.
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