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Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H)Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H)Posted Dec 21, 2012 9:33 UTC (Fri) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018)In reply to: Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H) by gmaxwell Parent article: Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H)
Would be nice to have a ARMv7 single- or dual-core board for about $30 with network + USB... Beaglebones are nice but a bit dear for my application...
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Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H) Posted Dec 21, 2012 13:07 UTC (Fri) by pboddie (subscriber, #50784) [Link]
The Olimex OLinuXino products look rather promising in this area:
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/
There's also the Cubieboard:
Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H) Posted Dec 23, 2012 16:34 UTC (Sun) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
they are interesting ideas, but they need to actually ship.
One of the massive advantages that the Pi has right now is that it's being produced in high volume.
When you're building 10K units/day you can get significantly better pricing than when you are trying to build 200 units total.
If these products actually get manufactured (in anything other than a one-off batch of prototypes), then we can start considering them as options
It would be good to get competition to the Pi (competition is good to have, it keeps all the projects from stagnating), but right now there's not much anywhere close to the price point.
Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H) Posted Dec 24, 2012 20:38 UTC (Mon) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978) [Link]
The OLinuXino has shipped, I bought and received one months ago (the MAXI iMX233-based one at least).
Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H) Posted Dec 29, 2012 15:20 UTC (Sat) by dr@jones.dk (subscriber, #7907) [Link]
We are tracking exactly this area for the FreedomBox - you might wanna subscribe to that wiki page and/or contribute to it: https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/TargetedHardware
Btw reason we don't include RPi on that list is that none of us working on FreedomBox consider it relevant for our purpose: It has too much non-free parts and is too slow (at least when used with official Debian where it needs to use the classic non-hardfloat amrel port).
Eben Upton: An educational life of Pi (The H) Posted Jan 5, 2013 19:34 UTC (Sat) by pboddie (subscriber, #50784) [Link]
I wrote some notes up on this kind of thing here: http://wiki.fsfe.org/Hardware_Vendors#Single-Board_Computers
Incidentally, I was at your talk on the FreedomBox at FSCONS 2012 where you placed a great deal of emphasis on self-maintaining solutions, and I think that this is another area where the Raspberry Pi people should be reaching out and actively collaborating with initiatives like the FreedomBox project instead of just seeing which party will give them the goodies first. For example, Oracle seem rather interested in pushing Java-based educational solutions on Raspberry Pi, but I don't think it would be wise to let them run the show.
Certainly, the Raspberry Pi has triggered a cascade of low price devices capable of running Linux and acting as PC replacements, although there were already similar devices available, and with statements being made about how the focus is to "tack back towards our founding aims", I can understand how people might be a bit suspicious of the project's priorities and motivations. After all, teaching programming is something that can be done without a specific device being made available, and surely the existing initiatives in this area would benefit from more attention and, of course, a share of the free, favourable publicity showered on Raspberry Pi by the mainstream media.
Then again, just getting everyone to work together that should be working together is an exercise in itself.
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