The discussions don't seem to target my issues at all. When I'm thinking of embedding a language, it's because I have a program that I would like for people to be able to extend; say a graphics program that people want an easy way to write plugins for, or a game that people want to write AIs for. I may well want for certain environments to be able to not compile in a 3MB Python interpreter. The Python one asks "do you want your application to inter-operate with other applications that Python can use?" Why would I? I'm not building a library here; why is it vitally important that Gimp and Quake can run at the same time?