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I'm not sure. If "defining" means some random persons decrees it, then no, it probably won't change anything.
If the biggest desktop distro says "we chose these technologies, and we'll be using them during the next 10 years and we guarantee they will be around during that period", then that'd be different.
When you write desktop SW, there's some choices you have to make:
* widget set?
* desktop integration (desktop tray)?
* configuration management?
* display/editing of files based on ... mime?
* setting up services?
Now if you know you have a stable platform to program against that will be able to reach the majority of your users for the next 10 years, than that's a big bonus for you (the developper/company).
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Posted Dec 6, 2012 9:56 UTC (Thu) by yeti-dn (guest, #46560)
an utter lie.
To give you a brief idea what 10 years means, 10 years ago Fedora did not exist yet. Neither did Firefox, cups, udev, Xorg X server, ...
The only thing guaranteed by such promise would be that the desktop distro itself will no longer exist in 10 years (should they choose to stick to it).
Posted Dec 6, 2012 10:10 UTC (Thu) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
Don't use phrases like "utter lie" lightly.
Posted Dec 6, 2012 10:26 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
I believe that it didn't include 'desktop' things, only 'server' things
also look at how much (or how little) is supported in the RHEL2/3/4 releases over time.
some parts of the stack are pretty stable, these include the kernel, webserve, and sysV init.
other parts are very unstable, and maintinance of 'frozen' ports is not practical. These include Firefox, Gnome, and probably, given it's current rate of change and development, systemd init and udev.
Posted Dec 6, 2012 10:31 UTC (Thu) by tpo (subscriber, #25713)
"Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 and 6 are offered with 10 years of Production Phase support, followed by a three year Extended Life Phase."
Posted Dec 9, 2012 10:34 UTC (Sun) by yeti-dn (guest, #46560)
Please go and read the actual conditions for RHEL. The later stages and extended support are clearly meant to just keep installed systems running. You get no new features, no support for newer hardware, services, file formats, etc. This is fine for a server that has a dedicated task to do. It is also fine for a single-purpose user machine, for instance used to control an instrument where you do not want, ideally, any changes at all (hence, little support). But this discussion started about desktop distros. And for a desktop (as in general purpose user system), not being able to connect most hardware newer than 10 years old, open any file formats that have appeared or changed substantially in last 10 years, use various services due to too ancient clients, ..., is deadly.
Also note you pay rather a lot for RHEL support -- fixing security holes in ten years old programs is terribly ungrateful work. Since community distros cannot make the contributors do it, those that tried to introduce this kind of long term support have all failed.
Posted Dec 9, 2012 17:46 UTC (Sun) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
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