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Some changes needed...Some changes needed...Posted Nov 28, 2012 17:50 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576)In reply to: Some changes needed... by Cyberax Parent article: Langasek: Upstart in Debian
And that's what actually happens in reality when you focus on theoretical elegance like being intolerant of misbehaving infrastructure, rather than focussing on making things that work in this world.
It's why 32-bit applications can't play sound out of the box on Debian wheezy (at least as of a couple of weeks ago), because both PulseAudio and Debian's multiarch implementation care more about 'technical excellence' than working software.
(I know, I should have filed a bug for my specific problem, or at least found out if there was one already, but I'd just spent ages trying to figure out why 32-bit applications can't use OpenGL on NVidia hardware only to discover that the bug was filed, the reason understood, a fix posted, and the maintainer intentionally didn't apply it because "if there's two things in the world I don't care about it's wine and the nvidia driver". I had no desire to head right back down that particular rabbit hole.)
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Some changes needed... Posted Nov 28, 2012 17:58 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
> "if there's two things in the world I don't care about it's wine and the nvidia driver"
Was this a package maintainer or upstream?
Some changes needed... Posted Nov 28, 2012 19:06 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
That seems like something FESCo would handle in Fedora (conflict between packager of A and packager of B which depends on A). There's no way to elevate it in Debian?
Some changes needed... Posted Dec 1, 2012 15:05 UTC (Sat) by viiru (subscriber, #53129) [Link]
> That seems like something FESCo would handle in Fedora (conflict between
> packager of A and packager of B which depends on A). There's no way to > elevate it in Debian?
Yes there is, the Technical Committee (see http://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte ).
Some changes needed... Posted Nov 28, 2012 22:24 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]
It's interesting to see that other people had the same kind of issues with Debian maintainers that I did. It's one of the reasons why I switched away from Debian some time ago.
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