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Any way to upgrade the system?Any way to upgrade the system?Posted Nov 28, 2012 16:53 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104)Parent article: Fedora 18 Beta is out I downloaded Fedora 18 Beta DVD and tried to upgrade my Fedora 16, but I could not find the upgrade option anywhere. The startup text screen only has "install". The graphical installer shows an exclamation sign over the disk menu. I could not find any way to select upgrade or even look at the existing partition table in the installer.
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Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 28, 2012 17:28 UTC (Wed) by AdamW (guest, #48457) [Link]
Upgrading is no longer done via the installer. This was going to be mentioned in the release announcement, but, you know :)
For F18 fedup is now the One True Way to upgrade (well, you can still do it with yum, which as always is unsupported but in practice appears to work quite well). You run it from your current system and it downloads packages then reboots to trigger the upgrade, much like preupgrade did, but it's all new code that does not go through anaconda. Note F18 Beta is its first public release, so exercise caution.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#How_Can_I_Upgrade_My... for more details and instructions.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 28, 2012 21:56 UTC (Wed) by dashesy (subscriber, #74652) [Link]
But I am not yet fed up with my F16, with a bit of Cinnamon it tastes just right.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 29, 2012 0:49 UTC (Thu) by zlynx (subscriber, #2285) [Link]
I hope that they put more testing into this new fedup program than preupgrade had.
Preupgrade almost always failed to work for me because it would ignore critical GRUB and kernel options. Like, say, where the root partition is or that without reboot=k the kernel crashes.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 29, 2012 20:55 UTC (Thu) by AdamW (guest, #48457) [Link]
As of now, it has very minimal testing, because the thing is literally still warm from the sausage factory - it's only actually been capable of successfully completing an upgrade, any upgrade, for about two weeks.
That's only temporary, though. The point of fedup is to write One True Upgrade Mechanism that works properly, which (we hope) will unify maintenance and testing. preupgrade used to get minimal maintenance and testing because we had ISO-based upgrades, and so long as those worked, there was less motivation to fix preupgrade - plus preupgrade was a pretty big hack job anyway. Since fedup is now the One True Way, it ought to get all the testing and maintenance focus.
So right now I wouldn't bet a penny to a dollar that fedup would work on your setup if it involves a non-standard grub config, but if you try it, and file a bug telling us exactly what color the explosion is, the chances are much higher that it'll be fixed than they would've been with preupgrade :)
Pointless as you cannot currently use fedup with Fedora 16 or lower Posted Nov 29, 2012 15:12 UTC (Thu) by southey (subscriber, #9466) [Link] See the FAQ above the provided link! I had hoped that we had finally gotten past this requirement of needing the prior release installed.
Pointless as you cannot currently use fedup with Fedora 16 or lower Posted Nov 29, 2012 20:52 UTC (Thu) by AdamW (guest, #48457) [Link]
It's a temporary thing. To be frank, fedup is being thrown together just as fast as possible - it's the main reason Beta was late. We shipped Beta as soon as fedup hit a basic level of workability, pretty much. You still have to point it at its initramfs image, it doesn't have a GUI, and it doesn't display upgrade process by default, and all the testing we gave it is that it successfully upgrades a stock F17 install. It is very much still a work in progress. The intent is that you'll be able to do multiple version upgrades with fedup in the long run, I believe.
Pointless as you cannot currently use fedup with Fedora 16 or lower Posted Jan 16, 2013 0:38 UTC (Wed) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545) [Link]
Still not available for fedora 16 at time of fedora 18 release.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 30, 2012 17:26 UTC (Fri) by meyert (subscriber, #32097) [Link]
So what is the official way to upgrade my two computers that have no DVD drive? Download the data twice on each computer? I would like to use the DVD image as base for the upgrade process. Currently there seems to be no good way upgrade multiple computers to the release images.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 30, 2012 19:47 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
Download the iso, fedup --iso rather than fedup --network.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 30, 2012 20:08 UTC (Fri) by meyert (subscriber, #32097) [Link]
mhh. the help text says '[TODO] installation image file' and when I try to use this option it crashes.
Any way to upgrade the system? Posted Nov 30, 2012 20:26 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
Hm. Yeah, looking more closely that may only be partially implemented at the moment. It's definitely the planned mechanism for your usecase.
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