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Some changes needed...Some changes needed...Posted Nov 28, 2012 7:52 UTC (Wed) by niner (subscriber, #26151)In reply to: Some changes needed... by Zack Parent article: Langasek: Upstart in Debian
Systemd is nice for the desktop, but I absolutely love it on the server. Finally there's a reliable way to shut down a deamon with all it's spawned sub processes. No more lost processes because they couldn't write their PID to a file and no more stragglers preventing the cluster manager from unmounting the file system and doing a failover.
No, there's simply no way to teach this to sysvinit. It's a genuine advantage of having init use cgroups for managing deamons.
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Some changes needed... Posted Dec 3, 2012 14:09 UTC (Mon) by JanC_ (guest, #34940) [Link]
It should be perfectly possible to teach "sysvinit" to do what you want; right now, it would just be more work to do so (it's not like systemd is the only application allowed to use cgroups).
Some changes needed... Posted Dec 6, 2012 15:56 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]
"We can do that" isn't what it's about. "We've done that" is what counts.
Some changes needed... Posted Dec 7, 2012 7:30 UTC (Fri) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
Even if this were to happen, would distros update it quickly or is it yet another difference between all the init systems out there in the meantime? If it happens quickly, why would sysvinit get a pass on "must be stable and proven before adoption" arguments and systemd not?
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