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Last time I checked it was Fedora community that released Fedora.
I guess the board forgot to give the community that memo...
Fedora 18 Beta is out
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:18 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:19 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:36 UTC (Tue) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
Most certainly the board should directly be involved when the community is violated like that...
Perhaps in the future LWN could stick with official marketing material and announcements from the projects marketing group instead of passing on Red Hat's one...
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:40 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 20:42 UTC (Tue) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
I'm just saying they should stick to the upstream one instead of passing on corporate claiming community's work their own.
In fact I expect it to be announced then and there on the 22 but no later then 24 encase the lwn writers were to busy participating with their loved ones in the holiday irony that the thanksgiving and black friday are.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 21:34 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 23:53 UTC (Tue) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
You mean the same board that I have had open ticket with over a year now to clarify the project stance against RHEL customers. An ticket which they could have copied more or less Matthews response on -devel at that time and wikify it. Thanks but no thanks...
"and yes, you are indeed complaining that LWN published a press release instead of a community announcement when in fact, no such community announcement exists."
Yes that is exactly what I'm doing and at the right place doing so and I know I responded with exactly that knowledge that no such announcement had been made that I was aware of 25 minutes *before* this comment of yours here...
Which rather begs the question how the whole marketing community, our FPM and our FPL missed that....
"If you look back on all previous releases, LWN has published community announcements."
Yes and you don't see me complaining about those published community announcements thus your point being?
Posted Nov 28, 2012 0:14 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:20 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:41 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 20:10 UTC (Tue) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
Posted Nov 27, 2012 20:39 UTC (Tue) by jake (editor, #205)
The post you point to is nearly a week old, not a release announcement for the beta. Perhaps there is a better choice for a community-generated release announcement (though I didn't see one in a quick look), but what you point to is not it, I'm afraid. We generally prefer those kinds of announcements over press releases (with proper or improper subjects), fwiw.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 21:09 UTC (Tue) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
We have an standard operating procedure for it and Jaroslav Reznik should have filled it out ( or someone from the marketing community ) but I guess that Robyn forgot to mention/remind him of it ( he's new to FPM ) since she was to busy cooking thanksgiving for the family while attending the no/go meeting.
It comes as no surprise to me that it happened thou since the lack of communication is after all the theme of this release ;)
Posted Nov 28, 2012 7:00 UTC (Wed) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
Besides, everyone knows Fedora is under Red Hat and many Fedora developers are paid by Red Hat. The Fedora developers who resent this subject line (if they exist) should work on another project.
Posted Nov 29, 2012 23:40 UTC (Thu) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
Now what gave you that notion ah right subject line like that...
Posted Nov 30, 2012 0:34 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
You guys have received previous pr emails from RH concerning fedora releases in the past prior to this right?
Have previous emails used similar subject constructions. I'm particularly interested in the email sent concerning the F17 release if you received one.
I just want to verify if this is indeed a pattern of behavior or a just a one time mistake, a mistake that has been publicly apologized for already actually. So this isn't a witchhunt, but more of a bracketing of the problem space.
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