Rarely, in the open source world, is there real venom, but these set of Gnome discussions show a real need for it ...
The gnome developers have lost their way, __completely__, and while the desktop UI gurus moan, and do their best to deflect criticism, while at the same time trying to achieve control, (or should that be kontrol as most of these idiots are Deutsch speaking) they alienate their user base. I don't care what they argue about in private, or do in private, I want a usable desktop that dosn't spend most of its life copying M$ bad ideas, or trying to do "touch-screen' without the hardware.
Gnome used to be OK, not great; KDE 3.5 was good and with 4.8 it is OK again BUT lots of simple things are broken and the Documentation/Build system are both complete messes ... thus many eyes are locked out or just give up and use XFCE or fvwm.
The most important thing here is for developer to get out of their mother's basement and talk to users.
The recent attempts to class Tovolds as a mad man just show how insular these guys have become. Ecample, it really really irks me to wait for KDE to start up while icons slowly 'fade in', one at a time