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Pervasive contemptPervasive contemptPosted Nov 22, 2012 2:12 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302)In reply to: Pervasive contempt by mjg59 Parent article: GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode
Nice try, but no. There are things that can be done on an empty workspace, like, I don't know - right click and start something? Go to a place? Create a new document?
Even in your case, where you do have a running application, overview is still a regression, because there are two changes of view and you cannot even see where your application is without entering the overview. (I never claimed things could not be improved in the "classic" paradigm - just that activities overview isn't it).
Please read Windows 8 review by the real usability expert I pointed to a few comments above. It is rather instructive when it comes to Gnome 3. I wasn't even aware of how hard Gnome developers have been looking at Metro before I saw Windows 8 on YouTube.
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Pervasive contempt Posted Nov 22, 2012 2:51 UTC (Thu) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
You seem to be running some Gnome 3 that isn't the one I'm running. Right clicking does nothing. I've no idea what "Go to a place" means.
Sure, it's mildly more involved to move an application to a different workspace. But that's made up for by not *having* to know where my application is - I click, I get taken there. I spend much more time interacting with running applications than I do starting new ones.
(I'm pretty convinced you've got your timeline wrong regarding Windows 8 and Gnome 3)
Pervasive contempt Posted Nov 22, 2012 3:04 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
> You seem to be running some Gnome 3 that isn't the one I'm running.
I run F-17, Gnome 3 fallback. Local desktop with mutter, remote one with metacity (mutter too slow on a VM).
> Right clicking does nothing. I've no idea what "Go to a place" means.
Just another two regressions introduced in Gnome 3, really.
Go to a place means clicking on Places and picking one. Right clicking does plenty when you have Nautilus run your desktop. If you install nautilus-open-terminal, it does even more.
> (I'm pretty convinced you've got your timeline wrong regarding Windows 8 and Gnome 3)
Possibly. Still, Nielsen's review of Windows 8 appears rather applicable to Gnome 3, as many ideas are the same.
Pervasive contempt Posted Nov 22, 2012 23:57 UTC (Thu) by luya (subscriber, #50741) [Link]
Ideas might be the same, implementations are different. For example, Windows 8 still does not have multiple work-spaces. Simply try Window 8 yourself. I can tell you it does look nor work like Gnome Shell at all.
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