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GNOME Shell to support a "classic" modeGNOME Shell to support a "classic" modePosted Nov 21, 2012 20:01 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137)In reply to: GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode by ovitters Parent article: GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode
> Unfortunately that behaviour is totally acceptable on LWN :-(
Which is better than the alternative.
I find quite a lot of what I read on the Internet (including most of your posts) not worth reading in hindsight, but I value freedom of speech, so I'm willing to put up with it.
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GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 21, 2012 20:15 UTC (Wed) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
Freedom of speech seems like a popular excuse to be rude.
GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 21, 2012 20:29 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
Sorry if I seemed rude, but I stand by my position. Trolling, flaming, petty bickering, banality, etc. are all undesirable, but not as bad as censorship. I refuse to retire quietly into some sort of Internet dhimmitude.
GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 21, 2012 20:37 UTC (Wed) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
I didn't meant to imply you were rude, just adding my bits to what you mentioned about comments on LWN.
There was nothing that could be rude as the only thing you said is that you don't find most of my post worth reading. In my impression I think I have more or less the same discussion, usually with the same people in pretty much every LWN article. It gets to the point that even if I am just interested in something other than GNOME, it turns in the same discussion anyway. I sometimes wonder if the repeating the same discussion is not against the spirit of the GNOME Code of Conduct ("try to be concise", see https://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct).
Saying "not worth reading in hindsight": I actually wondered why only in hindsight ;)
GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 22, 2012 3:37 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
> Saying "not worth reading in hindsight": I actually wondered why only in hindsight ;)
I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but if you mean "why do I read things that I think I might disagree with," it's because I've learned things from people with whom I disagree with on almost everything. I admit not often, but it has happened.
GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 22, 2012 8:21 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
I meant that as I often have similar discussions, you can pretty much predict what the will be in the comment if you see my name.
GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 21, 2012 21:45 UTC (Wed) by AndreE (subscriber, #60148) [Link]
You are free to go to other sites and participate in such non-constructive discussions with antagonistic tones.
And communities are free to enforce standards of discourse to encourage the sort of participation they like.
GNOME Shell to support a "classic" mode Posted Nov 21, 2012 22:16 UTC (Wed) by Company (guest, #57006) [Link]
I value censorship over freedom of speech for a lot of things. It is surely important to give people a chance to voice their opinion _somewhere_, but not everywhere.
This is why I value moderated places like GNOME IRC channels or mailing lists over Facebook or Twitter for GNOME development discussion or Google News over Tumblr.
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