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Crowding out OpenBSD

Crowding out OpenBSD

Posted Nov 14, 2012 2:14 UTC (Wed) by davem (subscriber, #4154)
Parent article: Crowding out OpenBSD

The divisive nature of the BSD projects have done more than enough to ensure the eventual irrelevance of these projects. Having limited resources for development is one thing, splitting those resources between at least 4 different forks (Net,Free,Open,Dragonfly) is yet another.

Given that, trying to claim that GNOME, systemd, or PulseAudio not staying portable enough is going to cause their demise is an exercise in absurdity if you ask me.

I really appreciate the nice sockets API we got from the BSDs, but their extinction frankly cannot come fast enough and is long overdue.

Or, maybe they should stick around, so that developers who don't want to work on a system that gains more than a million new users every single day have some place to play.


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Crowding out OpenBSD

Posted Nov 14, 2012 9:57 UTC (Wed) by ortalo (subscriber, #4654) [Link]

I do not consider my preference in the field of security for OpenBSD over a Linux distribution (second place btw, not so bad and possibly closing up) to be of the "play" style. It's even essentially a professional opinion.

And it's not only technical. It has its origin in the design objectives of the respective OSes; and I find *both* policies pretty reasonable (for different use cases of course).

Crowding out OpenBSD

Posted Nov 15, 2012 3:06 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

I really appreciate the nice sockets API we got from the BSDs
What? It's half-baked and non-Unixy, as ugly in its way as SysVIPC and for many of the same reasons, right down to implementing new read and write primitives for non-stream transports (though at least the stream transports use read() and write() like everyone else, the sole good decision in the whole sorry mess). Something properly filesystem-backed would be much more the Unix Way(TM). As in so many other areas, Plan 9 got this right.

IMNSHO, of course.

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