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Then they ignore you

Posted Nov 10, 2012 17:00 UTC (Sat) by mjw (subscriber, #16740)
In reply to: Then they ignore you by shmget
Parent article: LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Apache seems to still use subversion which makes it a bit hard to easily get the raw statistics. Luckily there is a way to import it all into git, it just takes a really long time. But then the raw data can be more easily compared.

ApacheOffice:
git svn clone https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/main apacheoffice

last 30 days, 61 commits by 10 different authors.
last 8 weeks, 166 commits by 17 different authors.
last 6 months, 950 commits by 26 different authors.
last 1 year, 1887 commits by 29 different authors.

LibreOffice:
git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core libreoffice

last 30 days, 1361 commits by 68 different authors.
last 8 weeks, 3039 commits by 97 different authors.
last 6 months, 9591 commits by 213 different authors.
last 1 year, 19111 commits by 380 different authors.

So OpenOffice at Apache isn't dead yet, but compared to the giant community and activity of LibreOffice at The Document Foundation it doesn't look very healthy.


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Then they ignore you

Posted Nov 10, 2012 23:46 UTC (Sat) by cesarb (subscriber, #6266) [Link]

> Apache seems to still use subversion which makes it a bit hard to easily get the raw statistics. Luckily there is a way to import it all into git, it just takes a really long time.

Apache has git-svn mirrors for their projects at http://git.apache.org/. Unfortunately, it does not seem to have a mirror for Apache OpenOffice yet.

Also, be careful when comparing the number of commits. Git and Subversion tend to encourage different commit patterns, so what is a lot of small commits in one could be a few large commits in the other. The same with the number of authors: Git has separate fields for "author" and "committer", while Subversion has only the committer.

Then they ignore you

Posted Nov 11, 2012 10:59 UTC (Sun) by mjw (subscriber, #16740) [Link]

Yeah, comparing commits against projects is always a little iffy. But in this case it does seem somewhat comparable. They are both branches of the same code base and the commits in both cases are generally small, with an occasional bigger commit in between. So LibreOffice sees approx 10 times the number of changes that Apache Office sees in the same timeframe. Still OpenOffice at Apache with ~60 commits by ~10 different people per month is far from dead. That is even a respectable amount of work for a lot of free software projects (I work on some smaller projects that see far less activity than that). But it really looks like what Apache Office does in 1 year is comparable to what LibreOffice does each and every month. Which does make sense if you see the momentum behind The Document Foundation and how much bigger the contributor base is for LibreOffice. The large amount of new features they add for each release is another indicator. But take all cross-project commit statistics with a grain of salt. It is just a coarse indicator of developer activity.

Then they ignore you

Posted Nov 16, 2012 3:37 UTC (Fri) by steffen780 (guest, #68142) [Link]

60 commits by 10 people in a month would be GREAT for a small project, especially one that goes with no or almost no funding. But AOO is neither small, nor does it have to make do without funding. For a project of this size 60 commits in a month is a complete joke.

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