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Posted Nov 8, 2012 16:37 UTC (Thu) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359)
The Arch Linux people said you can still use init scripts… now Arch Linux is dead.
And I will GR against a switch to systemd in Debian, should that become necessary.
Posted Nov 8, 2012 19:24 UTC (Thu) by smoogen (subscriber, #97)
Posted Nov 9, 2012 0:08 UTC (Fri) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
There's nothing complicated there, so it can be easily maintained indefinitely.
>now Arch Linux is dead.
That'd be a news for a lot of Arch users.
Posted Nov 8, 2012 19:25 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
Posted Nov 15, 2012 13:09 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433)
aiui you could compile udev separate from systemd. And I'm on gentoo. Not that I notice these things but my init system is OpenRC (I think - it's the default, whatever) and I'm running udev - udev 171-r8 to be precise.
iirc they may be the same code base, but they are two separate builds - the code bases merged because so much was duplicated.
Posted Nov 15, 2012 17:16 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Posted Nov 15, 2012 19:32 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
Posted Nov 15, 2012 23:52 UTC (Thu) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978)
Posted Nov 17, 2012 17:14 UTC (Sat) by engla (guest, #47454)
Posted Nov 17, 2012 18:47 UTC (Sat) by jrn (subscriber, #64214)
That is frightening. Regardless of what you think of systemd, the udev maintainers have just said loudly and clearly "We don't care about you" to a substantial existing population of users.
Posted Nov 17, 2012 19:38 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
Posted Nov 17, 2012 23:18 UTC (Sat) by jimparis (subscriber, #38647)
"We support stand-alone *operation* of the udev tools, but the build
system does not support a stand-alone *build*. The systemd tree needs
to be built and udev picked out of it."
Posted Nov 18, 2012 0:13 UTC (Sun) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
The recent news is that some Gentoo developers have (sortof) announced that they are planning to fork udev as a result of how it's being managed since being merged into systemd
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