Wayland and Weston 1.0 released

After the whole 'network transparency' red herring thing this was the next things that I saw people complaining about Wayland's approach.

> I can just see things like this http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/phone.htm spreading.

I don't. It's shit software. Users solve the problem of shit software by not using it. Developers may design and program something like that, but if they do then it won't hurt anything or anybody because nobody will use it.

If it _does_ actually become popular and widely used then users will find that sort of thing very useful and attractive despite the fact it may offend your design sensibilities... although I doubt that will happen to the extreme; because it's almost objectively terrible.

> And un-killable windows occupying the foreground and, and and...

I don't see how not having windows decorations dictated by Wayland is the same as not having control over windows. This problem can be solved by having a equivelent of 'xkill' and/or the use of a particular keyboard sequence that cannot be overridden or intercepted by a application. Also a alt-click-drag feature would be useful in Wayland, just like it is in X.