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Security quotes of the weekSecurity quotes of the weekPosted Oct 25, 2012 16:45 UTC (Thu) by DrMcCoy (subscriber, #86699)Parent article: Security quotes of the week
A quote by NaturalNews? Seriously? The name alone should tip one off that it's a crackpot site.
And looking at the content, you got the usual suspects: anti-vacc articles, "Microwaves kill food, plain and simple", homeopathy peddling, etc..
Hell, even your subtitle to the quote is wonky, since NaturalNews has articles arguing against the germ theory.
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Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 25, 2012 16:58 UTC (Thu) by jake (editor, #205) [Link]
> A quote by NaturalNews? Seriously? The name alone should tip one
> off that it's a crackpot site.
Really? Natural and News somehow == crackpot? -- I guess I don't quite see that ...
It may well be a crackpot site, I have no real idea, but the quote (and the concept) seem pretty sub-crackpot to me ...
YMMV,
jake
Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 25, 2012 17:23 UTC (Thu) by DrMcCoy (subscriber, #86699) [Link]
"Natural" is a widely used code word by people promoting "alternative medicine" (homeopathy, energy healing, acupuncture, ...) while badmouthing actual medicine as "unnatural" (for example, vaccines).
Just 5 minutes on the site and you see all those things:
Linking to such a site in this context and this uncritically is dangerous; it gives it an appearance of approval and endorsement, making it look like a valid resource for information.
Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 25, 2012 17:49 UTC (Thu) by jake (editor, #205) [Link]
> Linking to such a site in this context and this uncritically is
> dangerous
I'm sorry you think so, but the quote of the week is not meant to be an endorsement ... we often put up quotes of things we don't agree with, necessarily ... they are meant to just air a view of one sort or another, or alert folks to a threat they perhaps hadn't thought of, etc.
btw, "Natural" is used by lots of folks in lots of different ways ... I don't think you can pigeonhole it to the extent you seem to want to ...
jake
Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 25, 2012 18:15 UTC (Thu) by DrMcCoy (subscriber, #86699) [Link]
> I'm sorry you think so, but the quote of the week is not meant to be an endorsement
I just don't like having those quacks shown in any good light whatsoever, since with their eschewing of science, they produce a net gain in human suffering.
> btw, "Natural" is used by lots of folks in lots of different ways ... I don't think you can pigeonhole it to the extent you seem to want to ...
Well, at least the term "natural medicine" (NaturalNews is a "medical" site after all, "Natural health news") is pretty well defined as crackpottery on the internet:
Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 26, 2012 13:35 UTC (Fri) by njwhite (subscriber, #51848) [Link]
I find it very interesting to see how ideas important to us in the free software community spread outside of it. Karen's work on the dangers of proprietary software in medical devices is exactly the sort of concrete, quite easy to understand thing which spreads widely, and it's very useful and interesting to see how it does.
The site hosting the article may well have lots of articles that most of us find dangerous, but that doesn't diminish from the good of seeing how somewhat shared interests are represented there.
And yes, 'natural' is a particularly overloaded term. In my circles, in England, using the term natural in relation to health or medicine is generally going to refer to this sort of 'alternative medicine' stuff. I suspect it varies a great deal according to location and social circle.
Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 29, 2012 16:26 UTC (Mon) by faassen (guest, #1676) [Link]
NaturalNews is a rather odd source to be running into on lwn.net. As far as I understand it, they will mine any source whatsoever to show their point that conventional (science-based) medicine is bad in just about all cases (which is harmful if believed).
The quote might give some people the impression that this is a reputable site, like, say, New Scientist, the next quote. I doubt that many readers of lwn will be mislead by this for long however.
What if a creationist site had come up with a statement supportive of free software, or a truther site backed open source? Or a place selling free energy machines (invest now!). I'm not suggesting to know the answer, but it's one for lwn folks to think about.
P.S. Your quote is somewhat ironic: "NaturalNews learns that not just the patients in a hospital have viruses" - some of their articles claim that AIDS is not caused by a virus, such as http://www.naturalnews.com/027922_AIDS_David_Icke.html
(David Icke also believes reptilian alien illuminati are controlling the world or something like that)
Mike Adams, the editor of the site itself, also has written something like that:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027354_AIDS_immune_system.html
Security quotes of the week Posted Oct 29, 2012 19:06 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
David Icke is weirder than that. He thinks Queen Elizabeth II has actual power.
Clearly completely out of touch.
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