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Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencingSchaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencingPosted Oct 16, 2012 22:31 UTC (Tue) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106)In reply to: Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing by dlang Parent article: Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing
> 'harden everything' only works if you actually control every device on your network and have a sane way of administering the result.
I'll go one further: Harden everything only works if it's 99.99% automatic. Once you increase the number of devices hardening becomes so insanely time consuming that it just won't be done. The only sane way for one man to secure just 1000 devices is for him not to have to; in the ipv6 future 1000 will be a number that's easy for an individual to hit.
My prediction is that security through "the thieves haven't broken in to my house YET" will be the rule of the day. We're almost there now, but it will just get worse. Those users who notice that their toasters have been rooted, are stealing credit card numbers and forwarding them overseas will simply throw the toasters out and buy new ones, not attempt to secure them.
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Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing Posted Oct 16, 2012 23:38 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
Hardening doesn't need to be complicated. Just imagine that you touch your phone to your refrigerator and it is automatically authorized to connect to your logical home network (by enrolling it into IPSec overlay).
Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing Posted Oct 16, 2012 23:51 UTC (Tue) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
sure, then you have a party and a guest bumps up against the fridge with a phone in their pocket (or backpack) and now your fridge in connected to their network.
even assuming that someone takes the time to engineer your solution, and all the different manufacturers manage to agree on a common spec for how it would work, and going even further, manage to implement it in a compatible way.
Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing Posted Oct 17, 2012 0:20 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
You'll need to add some interaction, like a simple "Confirm" button on fridge's touchscreen.
And most of components are already here. NFC is available on most phones and NFC readers are dirt-cheap.
Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing Posted Oct 17, 2012 0:22 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
> NFC is available on most phones
with the notable exception of Apple devices. how many companies are going to make a fridge that cannot be configured by any Apple customers?
Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing Posted Oct 17, 2012 0:28 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
You assume that it's a permanent situation. iPhones will probably get NFC as soon as Apple feels like inventing it.
Schaller: The long journey towards good free video conferencing Posted Oct 17, 2012 15:33 UTC (Wed) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link] If you could achieve this I think it's fair to say that this is approaching 99% automatic.
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