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The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)Posted Oct 13, 2012 1:07 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)In reply to: The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) by chithanh Parent article: The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)
Shipping a generic Android on their platforms would have been possible, and also entirely uninteresting. The phone market isn't interested in unskinned Android. Asus, meanwhile, have been shipping Android tablets for over two years.
There's simply no way Nokia could have shipped an Android device as compelling as the Lumia in 10 months. Tying themselves to Windows gives them a chance of market dominance rather than guaranteeing gradual irrelevance.
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The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 13, 2012 9:43 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] The phone market isn't interested in unskinned Android.The hype around the Google tablet says otherwise. My own experience with the Google Nexus S too. I have never seen a review of a mobile phone center around the proprietary UI features (although I don't follow that kind of hardware porn too closely, true). Care to substantiate that statement?
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 13, 2012 10:09 UTC (Sat) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]
> > The phone market isn't interested in unskinned Android.
> The hype around the Google tablet says otherwise.
Sellers and buyers typically have opposite goals: screwing the other side.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 13, 2012 15:45 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
buyers aren't interested in screwing sellers, typically.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 13, 2012 21:51 UTC (Sat) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]
You must have an iPhone.
iPhone?!? Posted Oct 13, 2012 21:55 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] That must be the strangest deduction I have heard since the time I read Nietzsche's "Also Sprach Zarathustra".
iPhone?!? Posted Oct 13, 2012 22:19 UTC (Sat) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]
You actually never met any Apple fanboy happy to be ripped off?
iPhone?!? Posted Oct 13, 2012 22:23 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Yes, and Apple was actively trying to screw them off. I doubt rahulsundaram is in that category of Apple fanboy, or is as obtuse as to be fooled by Apple. Now Google OTOH... :)
iPhone?!? Posted Oct 19, 2012 15:34 UTC (Fri) by Jannes (subscriber, #80396) [Link]
haha, but a super funny one! +1 marcH
(sorry for the spam, I really giggled)
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 14, 2012 2:26 UTC (Sun) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
And you must be a three winged butterfly.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 13, 2012 14:39 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
(1) Tablets aren't phones
(2) How many carriers provide Nexus devices?
UI matters? Posted Oct 13, 2012 15:19 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] (1) Trivially true. The difference may or may not be relevant.(2) I don't know, I bought my Nexus S from Vodafone Spain (which also offers the Galaxy Nexus). Typically buyers will prefer to buy Google phones unlocked and without a contract (i.e. straight from Google). Since you don't provide any data to support your statement, just a couple of riddles, let me bring up a scientific sample of the first three pages for "Samsung Galaxy S3 review" that come up on Google.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 15, 2012 10:27 UTC (Mon) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]
> The phone market isn't interested in unskinned Android.
Here, here! I am!
Now, before you claim I'm not "the phone market"... well, I'm fully aware of that... Can you please send greetings from dgm next time you speak to them? Thanks!
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 15, 2012 16:24 UTC (Mon) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
Have no fear, the skins over ICS are thin and getting thinner.
Whether it's Google or the Market that spoke, skinning is becoming just theming now, not saddling the poor handset with crazy amounts of unstable bloatware. Thank GOODNESS.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 18, 2012 8:34 UTC (Thu) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link] Sorry, you're not a market, you're just a customer. A market is somebody willing to spend money betting that you will be a customer.To get J. to make shoes that fit and last, it's not enough that you want to buy them. J. has to be convinced that shoe stores will believe you want to buy them, and would want to sell them to you more than they want to try to sell you something else instead, and more than somebody else wants them to try to sell you something else instead. It's a miracle when we find someone selling what we actually want. It's always much easier all around to come to believe that we want whatever they have to sell. A similar argument applies in politics, where you're just a voter, not a constituency.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 18, 2012 14:04 UTC (Thu) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]
That is an interesting and widely overlooked perspective.
The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) Posted Oct 18, 2012 14:17 UTC (Thu) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]
> Sorry, you're not a market
Exactly what I said, no need to be sorry. May point was that he's not either and, as a result, assertions like "the market doesn't want..." are a bit frivolous (hence the tone of my reply).
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