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End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

In nearly simultaneous announcements, MandrakeSoft and SuSe have announced the end of support for their older distributions. MandrakeSoft is no longer supporting Mandrake Linux 8.2 as of September 30. The oldest supported version of Mandrake Linux is now 9.0. SuSE has cut off SuSE Linux 7.2, but is still supporting 7.3.
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End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 1, 2003 23:20 UTC (Wed) by vondo (guest, #256) [Link]

It would have been nice if Mandrake had extended critical support for 8.2 until a week or so after 9.2 is out. I have a firewall/NAT box sitting off my cable modem that I'm waiting for 9.2 before I upgrade.

End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 2, 2003 2:42 UTC (Thu) by katsklaw (guest, #15643) [Link]

then someone would want to wait for mdk 9.3 ... then 9.4 and so on .. there
should be a cut-off point.

End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 2, 2003 11:39 UTC (Thu) by mrdoornbos (guest, #110) [Link]

His point is valid though. It's really that 9.2 is due out in a week or two. Since all the 8.2 boxes will need to be upgraded, he doesn't want to upgrade to 9.1 this week, only to be a version behind the following week.

End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 2, 2003 11:39 UTC (Thu) by pointwood (subscriber, #2814) [Link]

This is actually a place where Microsoft is ahead. They support their products for 5 years.

That is probably a bit unfair to say though, since a Linux distro like Suse or Mandrake contains so much more than ie Windows 2000.

It is still true though.

End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 2, 2003 11:43 UTC (Thu) by mrdoornbos (guest, #110) [Link]

That's a good point. There are a number of situations where upgrading a system every 6 months is not only not practical, but actually bad. Of course in that case, there's always Debian. They don't exacly have the fastest release schedule and are usually good about not breaking existing things in the upgrade process.

End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 2, 2003 12:29 UTC (Thu) by ose (guest, #15659) [Link]

> This is actually a place where Microsoft is ahead.
> They support their products for 5 years.

SuSE guarantees five years of support for their Enterprise series including the
SuSE Enterprise Server and the Enterprise Desktop.

End of life for Mandrake 8.2, SuSE 7.2

Posted Oct 2, 2003 13:02 UTC (Thu) by seyman (subscriber, #1172) [Link]

> This is actually a place where Microsoft is ahead. They support their products for 5 years.

Red Hat Entreprise Linux comes with 5 years support.

You can upgrade a live system to Mandrake 9.2 now if you like

Posted Oct 2, 2003 16:54 UTC (Thu) by leonbrooks (guest, #1494) [Link]

Point URPMI at a Cooker mirror (or 9.2 when they appear) and do this:

urpmi urpmi  
urpmi --auto-select  
urpmi kernel

Services will bounce as they are upgraded, and services like PostgreSQL may want a database dump before you trash them and restore afterwards (AFAICT not needed coming from 9.1 but will be for the next Mandrake which will feature PostgreSQL 7.4.*), but other than that it's worked seamlessly for me on non-critical servers and on this workstation.

If you have a Mandrake 9.1 workstation, take the plunge! So many zillions of extra little things start working as they should. KMail, for example, now does smime and manages quote wrapping and huge mailboxes (tens of thousands of messages and up) much better. Live spellchecking works (highlights words in red), there are more config options, more right-click options, and so on.

The only blip I had was that some WINE libraries were left over from 9.1. I ripped everything WINE out, removed the WINE directories, reinstalled and all was peachy. I had fun recently blowing someone's mind by running PuTTY under WINE side by side with the Unix PuTTY port.

You can upgrade a live system to Mandrake 9.2 now if you like

Posted Oct 3, 2003 9:43 UTC (Fri) by consultant (guest, #15686) [Link]

That's almost correct, although if you're upgrading from 8.2 (good luck) which is a major, major leap, you'll need to make sure that the first things you upgrade are:

urpmi
perl (required by urpmi)
rpm (required by urpmi)
glibc (required by everything)
kernel

The other deps should take care of themselves

Since you're using urpmi for the upgrade, if you don't specify it, you may end up painting yourself into a corner on that. Also if you're doing it remotely (yes it can be done) don't forget to add the ssh suite to the list.

If your using telnet, then get someone else to upgrade the server for you as you obviously don't understand why you need ssh and should probably have training wheels on your keyboard!

Just my 2 cents (or tuppence ha'penny for those in the UK)

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