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There are only two sensible choice

Posted Oct 7, 2012 7:00 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: There are only two sensible choice by JanC_
Parent article: MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H)

You forget that UNIX/linux + X11 based solutions also survived as a desktop OS, have a growing marketshare nowadays, and actually own certain important niche markets...

Nope. Linux (and to some degree UNIX) survived as server OS, not as a desktop one. Sure it constantly tries to attack desktop but it fails consistently. The important fact is not that it fails (this is to be expected), the important part is that remaining tiny desktop niche does not support it. If you have years and billions of dollars to pour to such adventure then you can eventually succeed (you just need to last long enough till winner will do a major mistake), but the fact is: you can not receive enough money for such adventure from some market niche, they must come from some totally different (hopefully adjacent) market. XBox is a great example: yes, it's quite successful and now even [slightly] profitable, but how many years and how many billions thrown to this hole it took?

Similarly, Jolla can survive if it manages to carve out some niche markets with their phones (and/or other devices) & OS.

Again: Nokia had a chance, Jolla does not. Nokia had other departments which generated revenue, Jolla is trying to sell it's creation to the tiny niche which is just not big enough to support full-blown operation.


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There are only two sensible choice

Posted Oct 7, 2012 10:20 UTC (Sun) by alankila (subscriber, #47141) [Link]

It says they are focusing on China's market. Could the situation on China be different somehow, for instance with respect to how the cake has been divided up so far? In any case even if they were wildly successful over there, I imagine they would still gain no traction in the West for many years, and we should expect android and iOS to become fully entrenched in that time (if they are not already).

There are only two sensible choice

Posted Oct 7, 2012 11:44 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Situation in China is slightly different. Everywhere else people accepts the fact that Android is directed from Mountain View, but China likes Android yet hates Google. They had a plan: make sure Google keeps Android open till China can ditch Google. Google said quite clearly: if you want to go your own separate way then you can do that - but you need to decide to do so from the start: with your own developers and your own OEMs.

So yes, this opens the niche which Jolla can exploit (also note that Apple was unable to sign a contract with two biggest China telecoms so far). If they will succeed in China then maybe, just maybe, years later they will be able to attack the rest of the world.

The only problem: even if "they may succeed in China" is valid point I doubt we'll see anything in the rest of the world (at least not for a long, long, looong time). Do you know that Nokia produces Lumia 800 clone for Chinese market with Symbian (it's named Nokia 801T)? Well, it's over there, you can buy it in China, but how relevant is it for the rest of the world?

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