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MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H)MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H)Posted Oct 5, 2012 11:45 UTC (Fri) by ewan (subscriber, #5533)In reply to: MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) by hadrons123 Parent article: MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H)
"I sincerely hope this platform becomes a success."
As a (sort-of former) N900 owner, I really hope it doesn't. There is maybe the potential for one new entrant to the phone OS market to bring a system with the sort of practical freedoms that would enable novel and potentially disruptive things to be done with it, but this is not that system. The N900 nearly was, but Nokia took all the potential and threw it away. Now, anyone prepared to work within the constraints of a basically free-ish OS, but with closed drivers and a closed UI layer, can get all that on Android and also have a massive app market full of useful stuff.
What I want in a new mobile OS is for someone to succeed by being better, not by trying to pull the same crap as everyone else with some different branding on it.
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MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) Posted Oct 5, 2012 12:30 UTC (Fri) by juliank (subscriber, #45896) [Link]
Well, but Jolla will probably use GStreamer, and thus provide a much better multimedia playback than the intentionally crippled Android (which requires 3rd party players for almost everything, even standardised h264 with MP3 in an MPEG4 container). If advertised, this might help selling devices.
MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) Posted Oct 5, 2012 13:11 UTC (Fri) by nhippi (subscriber, #34640) [Link]
I don't see why using a 3rd party player is a problem. It's only a couple of taps in the app store and one tap to set it as the default media player.
That said, I hink Jolla has better chance than Nokia had with MeeGo. Jolla operates in a startup culture where the sense of urgency is clear. Nokia operated in a complacent incumbent culture.
For an example of this culture remember Anssi Vanjoki comment in 2007 how there is a "5-step plan" to make maemo consumer friendly. "Yes Iphone has launched, lets not hurry, instead lets use 4 years and two steps till we launch N9..."
MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) Posted Oct 5, 2012 14:26 UTC (Fri) by neiljerram (subscriber, #12005) [Link] What I want in a new mobile OS is for someone to succeed by being better, not by trying to pull the same crap as everyone else with some different branding on it.Agreed, and the GTA04 project is now well on the way to being better in that way.
MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) Posted Oct 5, 2012 21:41 UTC (Fri) by shmerl (guest, #65921) [Link]
Closed source drivers are not the main issue here. The main issue is their lack. Jolla will bring more attention to normal Linux on mobile. That's the main thing which requires a major breakthrough at the moment.
MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) Posted Oct 5, 2012 22:05 UTC (Fri) by ewan (subscriber, #5533) [Link]
"Closed source drivers are not the main issue here"
Yes they are, they're a critical issue. They're what limit people who want to maintain OSes after their makers have abandoned them, They're what limit people who want to port novel OSes to practically available kit.
We have some interesting things going on with Free software for phone and tablet type devices, but it's all pointless if you can't run it on anything. We need free drivers as a key part of decoupling the choice of OS from the choice of hardware.
MeeGo to return next month with Jolla phone launch (The H) Posted Oct 7, 2012 0:56 UTC (Sun) by shmerl (guest, #65921) [Link]
We of course need them. But we have little chances of getting them, no matter how much we need them. So working with closed drivers is a current reality.
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