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Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 15:46 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
In reply to: Who else reads Linus' G+ blog? by bronson
Parent article: Kernel prepatch 3.6-rc7

I *hate* this behavior of Google websites. I log out of my profile often and any time I try to visit Groups or Docs (now Drive), even for publicly visible pages, it instead directs me to log in. I end up nuking all Google cookies instead and then the link works. Why do people who have no account with Google have an easier time accessing public Google pages than those who choose to log out do?[1]

[1]I know the (or rather, an) answer, but it's silly that it even has to be asked.


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Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 16:32 UTC (Mon) by josh (subscriber, #17465) [Link]

> [1]I know the (or rather, an) answer, but it's silly that it even has to be asked.

I don't, and I'd love to. Why does it make sense for Google to request a login when I visit (for instance) public Google Groups?

Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 16:53 UTC (Mon) by lolando (subscriber, #7139) [Link]

My interpretation is that "they" want users to think that Google == the web. Which isn't too ridiculous a target, given many already think that the web == the Internet.

As the saying goes, when Google splits from the rest of the Internet, which side of the split will be the Internet?

Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 17:46 UTC (Mon) by theophrastus (guest, #80847) [Link]

meanwhile.. canonical has decided on the side that contains amazon:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-defends-...

nothing wrong with linux-based making money on referrals, but they really ought to be upfront explicit about it. and an easy opt-out is always a nice feature, (which, for now, Ubuntu apparently has)

Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 19:40 UTC (Mon) by luto (subscriber, #39314) [Link]

The best part is that, if you're logged into an apps account that isn't provisioned for the service, it tells you to log in to another account. Then you log into that account and it tells you again to log in to another account. etc.

I've told some Googler friends about this, and I think they're filed bug reports, but the new fancy multi-account sign-in thing remains terminally broken. It's been bad for at least a year, I think.

My (partial) solution: all of my cookies are wiped every time I restart my browser. It turns out they're not all that important.

Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 20:11 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

> I've told some Googler friends about this, and I think they're filed bug reports, but the new fancy multi-account sign-in thing remains terminally broken. It's been bad for at least a year, I think.

I've filed bugs as well, but there's no indication of whether your request is ignored or on some TODO list somewhere. Of course, my feedback tends to be more on the "unlikely to fix" end of things[1], but at least a "CLOSED WONTFIX" message would be nice.

> My (partial) solution: all of my cookies are wiped every time I restart my browser. It turns out they're not all that important.

I have Chromium wipe cookies every time, but uzbl is my default browser and it keeps cookies around which causes the Google services to get confused like this.

[1]Some examples: "Where is the NNTP gateway to Google Groups to read lists properly threaded?", "Where can I find the email address for a Google Group so I can use a useful email client?", "On Android, Chrome sucks at searching history."[2], and "Why can't I set Chrome to use DuckDuckGo from the search bar (or at least SSL for Google)?"[3].
[2]I have chrome:history bookmarked in Chrome so I can actually see more than the 1–4 results Chrome thinks is useful depending on device orientation.
[3]It seems as though Chrome and Firefox ignore any system search providers (such as the DuckDuckGo app) and instead just offer a hard-coded list of Google, Yahoo, and Bing. Luckily I can poke Firefox and change the URL format string in about:config (though Firefox's UI is, IMO, godawful (slow and looking) these days on the phone).

Who else reads Linus' G+ blog?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 23:25 UTC (Mon) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

My problem is with friends who have a google mail account but not a plus account. I've got them set to be notified by email of my plus posts, but I can't see ANY details about them in my circle - not even who they are!

I happen to know, but that's just plain stoopid ...

Cheers,
Wol

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