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Bazaar on the slow trackBazaar on the slow trackPosted Sep 11, 2012 23:10 UTC (Tue) by marcH (subscriber, #57642)In reply to: Bazaar on the slow track by juliank Parent article: Bazaar on the slow track
I've used CVS and SVN extensively. I've used git extensively. And also a few others from time to time. In theory this should give me plenty enough background to easily understand Bazaar's data model(s), shouldn't it? Yet not. The few times I tried to run a few basic Bazaar commands I got completely confused by this very strange mix of centralized AND distributed models. Or by other things? I guess I'll never know.
I much prefer a simple, clear and sound data model over a familiar and supposedly "user-friendly" interface.
On the other hand I've met a significant number of people who want to know as little as possible about version control *in general* (I know this is wrong but what can you do?). They just want to run the same and very small subset of commands again and again to publish their work without absolutely any interest for what happens behind the scenes nor for any other actual version control feature. git's complex and inconsistency command line makes their life extremely difficult. They would probably much prefer Bazaar. As noted in the article, this type of lusers would also be extremely unlikely to contribute to any VC tool in any way.
Great quote: "A common response I get to complaints about Git’s command line complexity is that “you don’t need to use all those commands, you can use it like Subversion if that’s what you really want”. Rubbish. That’s like telling an old granny that the freeway isn’t scary, she can drive at 20kph in the left lane if she wants."
Sometimes I wish I weren't that comfortable with git because that makes me too lazy now to try and learn Mercurial...
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Bazaar on the slow track Posted Sep 12, 2012 2:33 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
> Sometimes I wish I weren't that comfortable with git because that makes me too lazy now to try and learn Mercurial...
I tried using it for a few hours and my git experience made me lose some changes[1]. I'd call it data loss, but the devs consider it just a bug. Sure, they're both a DVCS, but I think starting from step one is probably easier when learning a new one than trying to make analogies based on my experience with darcs (XMonad repos and some other Haskell stuff), hg (tried to make a patch for mutt and udiskie), and one attempt to do something with bzr (don't even remember what it was, but zsh's vcs_info plugin for it is/was molasses (as in 5s for a prompt to appear with just the branch name and "dirty" status)). Every time, I get the feeling "I'd rather use git", but that's probably just familiarity talking.
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