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Improving Ubuntu's application upload processImproving Ubuntu's application upload processPosted Sep 6, 2012 8:07 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)In reply to: Improving Ubuntu's application upload process by Cyberax Parent article: Improving Ubuntu's application upload process
well, if they haven't released it, it seems a bit early to say 'mobody cared'. And as for their demo, did it really implement everything? or just enough to give examples? If they include it in 12.10, publicise it, and then nobody cares I'll start to believe you.
docking units don't have CPUs.
Plus you have this amazing assumption that people who write small android apps can scale them up to full features apps without a problem.
your attitude that the current apps and android apps cannot co-exist, all existing software must be thrown out and re-written is exactly what I expect from the "big boys" I mentioned above.
I expect that the reality is going to be that the convenience of having your entire system with you is going to overcome a lot of the 'opposition' to the continued use of existing 'ugly' apps.
but once people actually have the options we'll see what happens with it.
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Improving Ubuntu's application upload process Posted Sep 6, 2012 10:28 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] Plus you have this amazing assumption that people who write small android apps can scale them up to full features apps without a problem. Where have you seen this assumption? Yes, people who write Android apps today may not be able to write the full-blown desktop apps. But they work in the same company as the people who write the full-blown desktop apps! They can easily coopt code and people from today's big apps. This is similar to UNIX-to-Windows switch which happend with such big apps 10-15 years ago. Sure it was painful back then and it will be painful tomorrow, but apps follow the money. And money are in Android and iOS apps, not in the Ubuntu apps. your attitude that the current apps and android apps cannot co-exist, all existing software must be thrown out and re-written is exactly what I expect from the "big boys" I mentioned above. Where have you seen such an attitude? It didn't happen last time, why will it happen this time? Yes, unimportant parts (things like support for X Window system or Win32 API) will be ripped out, but core will be kept up. It'll be quite painful for the people who tied up the core to Win32 API, but there will be some adapters, etc. The transition already happend not once, but twice or in some cases trice (from big iron to VMS, then to UNIX and finally to Windows), it'll hapen yet another time.
Improving Ubuntu's application upload process Posted Sep 6, 2012 14:36 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
>well, if they haven't released it, it seems a bit early to say 'mobody cared'. And as for their demo, did it really implement everything? or just enough to give examples? If they include it in 12.10, publicise it, and then nobody cares I'll start to believe you.
They've implemented it enough to be useful. Still, nobody of large OEMs cared.
>docking units don't have CPUs.
But seriously, that's just a logical progression - simply add ability to easily offload apps from a tiny CPU in a phone to a real desktop CPU.
>Plus you have this amazing assumption that people who write small android apps can scale them up to full features apps without a problem.
Improving Ubuntu's application upload process Posted Sep 6, 2012 19:07 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
connecting two CPUs together efficiently is hard, and not something that you are going to do with a docking station (the connector alone will be a large percentage of the size of the mobile device, you aren't just talking about a USB cable or something like that.
Also, a docking station with it's own CPU, memory, etc isn't cheap, but it also already exists (it's called a "desktop computer")
what you seem to be wanting is checkpoint/restore capability to move running applications from one server to another. with the appropriate emulation, the desktop doesn't need to have the same processor architecture that the mobile device has
docking stations are much simpler, they are little more than convienient ways to plug in several devices at once instead of having multiple wires.
Improving Ubuntu's application upload process Posted Sep 6, 2012 19:10 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
> connecting two CPUs together efficiently is hard
You don't need to do it. Just migrate all running apps to the docked CPU.
>Also, a docking station with it's own CPU, memory, etc isn't cheap, but it also already exists (it's called a "desktop computer")
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