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Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 4, 2012 18:45 UTC (Tue) by cortana (subscriber, #24596)
In reply to: Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level by cesarb
Parent article: Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Is there an option to change it back to Suspend? I installed GNOME 3.4 on a desktop machine today. Desktop systems have neither a lid nor a suspend button so... how does one suspend a desktop machine under GNOME 3.6?


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Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 4, 2012 19:13 UTC (Tue) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link]

Hold down the Alt key and the "Power Off" menu item will change to suspend.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 4, 2012 19:32 UTC (Tue) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

Could the theme for the next Gnome release please please be discoverability?

Hot corners and alt keys produce hours of family tech support.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 13:20 UTC (Wed) by pspinler (subscriber, #2922) [Link]

This, please. There should be some form of visual indication of a possible action. Trying to find what one can do via various 'hidden' hot corners and/or mode keys is difficult.

Additionally, I use a multi-machine setup with synergy, so stuff like hot corners actually break my setup. Fling the mouse to the corner (edge of screen) and it goes to another screen.

Discoverability, please. Hot corners and/or alt-keys only as a clearly labeled shortcut to a menu item or other visible action.

-- Pat

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 13:28 UTC (Wed) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

Synergy doesn't pay attention to pointer barriers?

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 20:38 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

You can configure synergy to ignore spaces at the corners, but it is a bit of a pain.

Also there is a bad problem that happens when certain types of windows are maximed.. it will block synergy from drifting over. I had this issue with Gnome-terminal. I don't know if it is still a issue however. It has been a while since I last tried it.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 20:46 UTC (Wed) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

Well, the expectation is that multiple monitor setups will pay attention to the pointer barriers that shell sets up - it's very easy to deliberately hit the overview hotspot even if there's a monitor to the left of it. The questions are (a) does shell set those up if it thinks it's on a single monitor setup, and (b) does synergy pay attention to them...

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 13, 2012 7:49 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

(sorry, late response)

I mentioned something like that after 3.0. Apparently, that some things are more difficult to discover than other things is done on purpose. The thought is gradual discovery. But to get that gradual discovery right is difficult, so I'm guessing it'll take a few more releases to improve.

Seems good to raise it again.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 4, 2012 21:06 UTC (Tue) by reddit (guest, #86331) [Link]

Ahhh... it is in these little details that one can see the greatness of the GNOME 3 team.

Lesser men would replace a broken design with a functional one, but they do not realize that doing so stops the engine of change that powers the whole Universe!

Instead, the truly enlightened always replace a broken design with a different broken one, so that the flow of change can continue forever unimpeded.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 2:27 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

This guy is making me feel more sympathetic to GNOME developers with each new comment. A few more and I will start sending up patches.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 9:26 UTC (Wed) by reddit (guest, #86331) [Link]

Good luck, have fun!

To start, I strongly suggest picking some highly established feature and replacing it with a semi-broken alternative that is much less discoverable and harder to use.

If they reject your patch, try making some unsubstantiated claims that your design works better with touch.

Anyway, congratulations, you are well on your way to a position on Red Hat's desktop team, where you'll finally be able to operate without the annoying constraint of having to write usable software.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 11:23 UTC (Wed) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

I guess the slashdot account has been banned or something?

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 12:56 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

The guy is just trolling because he thinks it's funny. The names are part of the joke. Somebody probably told him to stop acting like he is a idiot on slashdot, so he renamed himself 'slashdot'. Nowadays reddit is the new slashdot so he renamed himself that because people were starting to simply ignore him.

This is my guess.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 2:28 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

This guy is making me feel more sympathetic to GNOME developers with each new comment. A few more and I will start sending up patches.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 2:28 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

Sorry for the double posting.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 4, 2012 21:57 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

This is getting simply reddiculous.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 10:29 UTC (Wed) by cesarb (subscriber, #6266) [Link]

> Desktop systems have neither a lid nor a suspend button so... how does one suspend a desktop machine under GNOME 3.6?

Last time I tried under Gnome 3, a short press on the power button suspended the computer (unlike on Gnome 2, where it showed a much more useful dialog asking what to do; even then, the list of options included suspend and hibernate IIRC). That was on a laptop, but it should work the same on a desktop.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 12:43 UTC (Wed) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link]

It seems logical to me that pressing the Power button would do whatever picking the default suspend/power off item does in the menu. So under GNOME 3.6 I would assume that pressing the button will simply power off the machine, naturally without prompting me before destroying all my work. I'll try it once it shows up in Debian.

Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level

Posted Sep 5, 2012 12:54 UTC (Wed) by micka (subscriber, #38720) [Link]

> I'll try it once it shows up in Debian.

Well, Debian is in suspended animation at the moment.

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