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clarificationclarificationPosted Sep 4, 2012 14:11 UTC (Tue) by Zea (guest, #86552)In reply to: clarification by corbet Parent article: Day: Taking GNOME 3 to the next level
Mr Corbet. Im sorry to say this but I believe you are partly to blame :(
A reporter with your integrity can do much better than simply republish the blog. Taking this GNOME bashing into account LWN havent done much to put it to an end. By reading Mr Days fine blog it is evident to everyone that GNOME net added a LOT of features.
While many of us have enjoyed LWN and its many good commenters things do get out of hand when the subject is GNOME. The only way to cure it is by stating the obviuos in your articles; GNOME is adding features. It really is that simple!
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clarification Posted Sep 4, 2012 16:13 UTC (Tue) by Aliasundercover (subscriber, #69009) [Link]
Should GNOME be excluded from coverage because people like to write flames about it? Or perhaps a little moderation is enough to keep the comments civil?
I suspect a lot of people have changed attitudes toward GNOME. In the past it was my desktop and I used it every day. Now I use other software but still like to see news of its progress as a research project. Maybe at some point I will find use for it again.
clarification Posted Sep 4, 2012 17:05 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]
This wasn't an "article" nor a piece of "premium content". It was just a news item... where they are making the community aware of various happenings in the FLOSS community. They don't just do it with GNOME related content but with EVERYTHING... so I find no fault with LWN for posting this... nor with "adding" to the problem by posting this.
The sad fact is that some people are bitter with GNOME and they seem to wallow in it.
As for me, I like and occasionally use GNOME 3.x. I also like and occasionally use KDE 4.x and XFCE. It all depends on my use case. I do not feel compelled to comment and say how I like GNOME 3 every time there is a news item posting on LWN... unlike the "haters". :)
clarification Posted Sep 5, 2012 8:41 UTC (Wed) by Zea (guest, #86552) [Link]
medias create myths about heroes and scapegoats. It is the same story for most genres of journalism. Sports, politics, and open source.
Mr Corbet did his share of GNOME bashing *earlier*, some of it justified. Today is another story and GNOME3 is shaping up nicely. The same old "heroes and scapegoats" doesnt apply anymore. Mr Days blog is full of new GNOME features but no one talks about em.
Like it or not, the comments so far is not about Mr Days blog. It is the same old talk(rant). We would be better off without the commenting. Maybe people then would actualy read the article!
Comments off please.
clarification Posted Sep 5, 2012 9:03 UTC (Wed) by cmccabe (guest, #60281) [Link]
At this point (it may change later) I literally see no negative comments about GNOME3 except for reddit's obvious troll, and one neutral comment by someone who doesn't use GNOME3 now but hopes to in the future if it improve for his use case. Hardly a case for "comments off."
I think people have gotten tired of being negative about GNOME. They clearly have a philosophy which is different than some other desktop environments. You either buy into it, or you don't. I was willing to give GNOME3 a try: I would encourage other people to try it too. I didn't end up selecting it as my DE, but that's neither here nor there. I've talked about it elsewhere: it's probably about as interesting to you as my choice of vi or emacs, and it has nothing to do with this article.
clarification Posted Sep 4, 2012 23:00 UTC (Tue) by cmccabe (guest, #60281) [Link]
> A reporter with your integrity can do much better than simply
> republish the blog. Taking this GNOME bashing into account LWN > havent done much to put it to an end. By reading Mr Days fine > blog it is evident to everyone that GNOME net added a LOT of features.
I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. Are you suggesting that negative comments about GNOME be censored? That seems to happen on a lot of other sites, and I'm glad that LWN is a "free speech zone"... despite the occasional bozo. If I have misinterpreted you, please correct me.
Also, it would be helpful if you could reveal whether you're affiliated with GNOME or not.
clarification Posted Sep 5, 2012 11:17 UTC (Wed) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] I doubt there is much anti-Gnome-3 censoring going on... it may be just that (i) Gnome 3 has matured to the point that it can be used by Aunt Tillie, (ii) the users became accustomed to the Gnome 3 way, and (iii) the trolls got bored and went elsewhere.
clarification Posted Sep 8, 2012 8:13 UTC (Sat) by Pawlerson (guest, #74136) [Link]
You forget about the most probable scenario: people don't care, because they want their job being done in a more usable way, so they switched to KDE.
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