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Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org)

Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org)

Posted Sep 3, 2012 11:05 UTC (Mon) by grantingram (guest, #18390)
In reply to: Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org) by cmccabe
Parent article: Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org)

Well research works are supposed to bring something new to the table: data, algorithms, analysis etc. Although you may be building on he shoulders of giants, you are not simply cutting and pasting the material....

It also depends what you mean by "cite". In my experience this means providing a reference which the reader can then see what the original paper was. Although the meaning of words varies considerably across different academic disciplines this is what the Bibtex \cite command does....

In my field it is rare that lengthy quotations or even figures from other works are included for no other reason that this reduces the space you have to discuss your own work.


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Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org)

Posted Sep 5, 2012 3:17 UTC (Wed) by cmccabe (guest, #60281) [Link]

"Bringing something new to the table" doesn't make something not a derived work.

> In my field it is rare that lengthy quotations or even figures
> from other works are included for no other reason that this
> reduces the space you have to discuss your own work.

That makes sense, I suppose.

Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org)

Posted Sep 5, 2012 5:44 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

all of science is "derived work" adding to the existing knowledge and theories.

Stop the inclusion of proprietary licenses in Creative Commons 4.0 (freeculture.org)

Posted Sep 5, 2012 6:16 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

>It also depends what you mean by "cite". In my experience this means providing a reference which the reader can then see what the original paper was. Although the meaning of words varies considerably across different academic disciplines this is what the Bibtex \cite command does....

For example, overlaying your data set over a graph from another paper is pretty common. It can be done for a lot of legitimate reasons: to illustrate improvements of new methods, to highlight errors in previous works, etc.

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