LWN.net Logo

A bit concerned about relying on claims made in unpublished crypto papers

A bit concerned about relying on claims made in unpublished crypto papers

Posted Aug 25, 2012 10:10 UTC (Sat) by paulj (subscriber, #341)
Parent article: Forward secure sealing

To echo points made by dlang elsewhere in this thread...

Does anyone else find it a bit disconcerting that a security feature is being pushed based on unpublished crypto? New cryptographic protocols often will have subtle features to them, if not flaws, that have significant implications for operators/implementors, but which take time for researchers to discover.

Very strong security claims are being made for this new technology, based on a worryingly early stage of the academic peer review process (it apparently hasn't even gotten past the first stage of that yet). This is unsettling...


(Log in to post comments)

A bit concerned about relying on claims made in unpublished crypto papers

Posted Aug 25, 2012 13:51 UTC (Sat) by Fowl (subscriber, #65667) [Link]

It doesn't seem to me to be very novel, just a rearrangement of well-known, understood and time-tested primitives.

The implementation will almost certainly have bugs of course, but all software does. If your security depends on this feature you must evaluate it yourself.

A bit concerned about relying on claims made in unpublished crypto papers

Posted Sep 7, 2012 9:55 UTC (Fri) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

just a rearrangement of well-known, understood and time-tested primitives.

Agreed, hence why I wrote "new cryptographic protocols". I meant that this is a new protocol using cryptography, not new cryptographic protocols. Sorry. Although, exactly what the protocol is is unclear. It seems you need to read the code to figure that out (?).

A bit concerned about relying on claims made in unpublished crypto papers

Posted Sep 7, 2012 10:29 UTC (Fri) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

Gah... s/\(not new cryptographic\) protocols/\1 primitives/

Copyright © 2013, Eklektix, Inc.
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds